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Roarkiller
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quote: Originally posted by foreignfilmfreak
So, what's so bad about the online thingy?
What online thingy? All we said was that there's a legal online version out there, and it's out on fansub.
@Saddle: Yeah it will. And it's only the 1st part of three. Good thing too, or I would really have cried.
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quote: Originally posted by fenkashi Screw your opinions, they are not relevant ^^.
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Kanta
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Wow. Roar seems moved so much! You must be so sensitive. My friend Hyuma (member of this Tavern) also said he watched and cried with online source of English fansub. I’m too old to cry though. eheheh. But I’m sure this movie is very touching for teenagers.
Roar says we should not see online version though, if it has good sub, it’s worthy of watching, I think. Notice! Need sub. In this movie, dialogues are almost monologue of the central character. It’s very important. The file I got is 227MB and has very good quality.
The theme song “One more time, One more chance” is made and sung by Yamasaki Masayoshi only for this film. Maybe you can buy it at i-tune shop. If you can’t, contact me.
photo---left--Yamasaki, right---Shinkai
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Hyuma
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Thanks to my friend Kanta!!!
I was very impressed too!! I have fansubbed in my language (italian), the "Oukasho" movie and I feel very good during the translation because I love this kind of story...
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04.15.2007, 06:42 AM |
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Roarkiller
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The thing is, Kanta, is not that I'm sensitive or insensitive. But my attraction to anime is how they use animation to evoke emtions. You have to remember that, in the end, they are just drawing. NO real actors mean no real facial expressions, so voice acting and directing has to be VERY good to make a good movie.
Which Shinkai has done.
Anyway, I was talking to those who wanted to wait for the DVD, because this is unfortunately only one part of htree i.e. not the complete movie.
つまりさ、これを見ればドンドンがまんできないんです
よ。
But no, I won't get the song or the album. Unfortunately I don't like his counter-tenor singing style. Much prefer Natsukawa Rimi or Sakamoto Maaya anyway. Or Tsuji Ayano.
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quote: Originally posted by fenkashi Screw your opinions, they are not relevant ^^.
Post last edited by Roarkiller on 04.15.2007, 11:28 PM.
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Saddletank
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I think Roar touches on a very valid point there. I get terribly moved by lots of anime and maybe it is because it isn't real people but someone/several someones have invested hours and hours of labour and skill and love into a scene that might last a few minutes.
As an example, look at the clock scene from Whisper of the Heart, look at just how much is in there, not just the animated faces, but the animated clock, the beautiful backgrounds, the music, the voice acting, the way this scene supports and enhances the love story in the movie. Such a lot happens there in about 3 minutes.
I get transported by such scenes because there is so much in them.
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04.16.2007, 06:26 PM |
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foreignfilmfreak
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I still need to complete it.^^(I'm so stupid, but I get no time.)
Only one show has really made me cry, and it lasted 45 minutes I was crying, ha ha ha! I don't even know why, it just reminded me of something. That was the final episodes of Pita Ten. May sound stupid I was crying, but I burst out in tears. Others haven't done it, except for the ending of Pom Poko, and I'm not really sure either.*scratches head*
(I haven't seen it since Christmas Day)
I'm gonna finish it sometime, but I'll need to drag someone to watch the rest with me. AKA MY COUSIN.^^
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04.16.2007, 06:34 PM |
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Ray15
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I've only watched the first five minutes
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arren18
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On what RK and Saddles are saying: I often find scenes in anime more moving or touching than I would if they were live-action. When actors and actresses are physically performing, every line, every action and every emotion is fake. However, in anime, lots of effort goes in to make it evoke feelings. In art, symbolism is used to convey ideas and emotions, and anime is no different. A person standing delivering scripted lines can't do that.
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Saddletank
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quote: Originally posted by arren18 A person standing delivering scripted lines can't do that.
I'm afraid to say you are wrong. They may not be able to convince you they are real but the art of being a great actor is being able to convince yourself you are real and projecting that reality to the camera.
You've never seen Sir John Geilgud as Macbeth on stage have you? I can tell you he really was King Macbeth, no arguing.
Admittedly it doesn't happen that often but when it does, its magic.
On the other have there is some pretty weak VA work in anime sometimes.
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04.17.2007, 04:39 PM |
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Roarkiller
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The difference between animation and live-action is that the voice actors only have their voices to rely on.
Acting is easier, you can use facial expressions and body language and the like. Granted, it also opens up more avenues for mistakes, but at least you have more ways to express yourself.
Which is why I really respect VAs who can shine.
Either way, the real talented, both VAs and actors, aren't very common. Hell, a lot of "famous" actors you see nowadays, like Toby Maguire, Hugh Grant, Kirsten Dunst, etc often fail at bringing out the characters they play.
Worst I know would be Jean Claude Van Dam, wow can that guy NOT act.
@FFF: Uh, PitaTen? For real? Didn't know it was that emotional, it was rather cliched for me.
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quote: Originally posted by fenkashi Screw your opinions, they are not relevant ^^.
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04.18.2007, 01:04 AM |
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Saddletank
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Non actors? Hmm... let me see:
Schwarzenegger, Stallone, Roger Moore, Will Smith (he just plays exactly the same person in every movie).
Anyway, yeah, agreed, the limitation of just using your voice does make the very good VAs all the more impressive.
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quote: Originally posted by Saddletank
quote: Originally posted by arren18 A person standing delivering scripted lines can't do that.
I'm afraid to say you are wrong. They may not be able to convince you they are real but the art of being a great actor is being able to convince yourself you are real and projecting that reality to the camera.
You've never seen Sir John Geilgud as Macbeth on stage have you? I can tell you he really was King Macbeth, no arguing.
Admittedly it doesn't happen that often but when it does, its magic.
Okay, maybe "can't" was a bit strong. How about "can rarely"?
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Roarkiller
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Rarely is right. But on your argument, if it's what I think you're saying, I've seen some anime where the animation is barely worth nuts, but the voice-acting alone made the scene shine.
For an example of a good actor: See Nanny McPhee's Simon. He played the part really well.
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quote: Originally posted by fenkashi Screw your opinions, they are not relevant ^^.
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Well, obviously when the animation is rubbish, it's a bad example. To come back to my point about art, if they make a bad job of anime, it's like making a bad job of art. Then labelling it as "post modern".
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