Posted by saviour2012 on 09.16.2013, 02:43 AM:
It is a belief of mine that majority are good, it gives me hope so i would like to keep this. The thought that majority may be evil [that is what most south asian think in case of west] gives me the chills.
I agree with the facts that what mush and roar said. And it is also seen in history. But i had two points
1.Distribute accurate information to the general people
2.It has to be for the good of the people [all people]
You missed the second one.
@Mush
I do not consider china or syria to be good. they are much more oppressive towards their people than many of the western countries. Western countries are not oppressive right now but it is only a matter of time when they will. i think its inevitable.
But in USA or UK that[major protests] thing happened by young people and is influenced very much by internet.You have to understand govt do not ever deny the power of people.
These were a start. And it was bottled up before it could spread. And now after they control internet information it is very likely that it wont happen again. Controlling info will make people act or react to a incident with much less importance.
In computer science we have a word called big data. It is a complex data system that can manipulate or give a vision[computer vision that is] using algorithms and other factors. Now all the western countries already had too much information on public behavior or pattern [different types:social,economic,traffic etc etc] and one after another opening of the big data centers all over the world will create a network that will enable the people in power to manipulate information and then predict what kind of effect it might have in people. You might think its all science fiction, yes i agree it is not like neon genesis type computing, but it is in effect and will be in much more stronger position in future for decision making. As i have been working on a project about traffic jam[tragedy of commons problem] i studied a lot about big data and its implementation. So the things i said about information control, censorship etc etc will get even more prevalent.
So i am very much afraid that the positive wave that general young people who did something other than playing games did know something. If they stop this then they will do whatever they want.
now that i said it, it makes me want to make a list of pictures of many things that turned into reality from science fiction anime.there is so many things i want to do but no time.
And about govt and people relationship[that you said the idea of mine is common] these are quotes that i stored a long time ago.
comedian george carlin
quote:
Hello! Thank you, thank you. Thank you and hello New York! OK. It has been a little while, since I have been here and a couple of things has happened in that time I like to talk a little bit about the war in the Persian Gulf. Big two ones in the Persian Gulf. You know my favorite part of that war? It is the first war we ever had, it was on every channel, plus cable. And the war got good ratings too, didn't it? Got good ratings. Well, we like war. We like war, we are war like people. We like war, because we are good at it. You know why we are good at it? Because we did a lot of practice. This country is only 200 years old and already we have had 10 major wars. We average a major war every 20 years in this country, so we are good at it! And that is good thing we are, we are not very good in anything else anymore. Can't built a decent car, can't make a TV set or VCR where the fuck. Got no steel industry left, can't educate our young people can't get health care for our old people, but we can bomb the **** out of your country alright?! Especially if your country is full of brown people. Oh, we like that, don't we? That's our hobby! That's our new job in the world, bombing brown people! Iraq, Panama, Granada, Libya, you got some brown people in your country, tell them to watch the **** out or we will god damn bomb them! Well, when is the last white people you can remember that we bombed. Can you remember the last white people? Can you remember any white people, we have ever bombed? The Germans! Those are the only ones and that is only because they were trying to cutting in our action. They wanted to dominate the world! Bullshit! That's our ******* job! Now, we only bomb brown people. Not because they are trying to cutting in our action, just because they are brown. You probably noticed that I don't feel about that war the way we were told, we were supposed to feel about that war, the way we were ordered and instructed by the USA government to feel about that war. You see, I tell you, my mind does not work that way. I got this real moron thing I do, its called thinking and I am not a very good American, because I like to form my own opinions! I don't just roll over when I am told to. Sad to say most Americans just roll over on command. Not me. I have certain rules I live buy. My first rule: I don't believe anything the government tells me. Nothing. Zero. Nope. And I don't take very seriously the media or the press in this country who in the case of the Persian Gulf war were nothing more than unpaid employees of the Department of Defense and who most of the time, most of the time function as kind of unofficial public relations agency for the US government. So I don't listen to them, I don't really believe in my country and I got to tell you folks, I don't get all choked up about yellow ribbons and American flags. I consider them to be symbols and I leave symbols to the symbol minded. Me, I look at war a little bit differently. To me war is a lot of prick waving. OK? Simple thing that's all it is. War is a whole lot of men standing out on the field waving their pricks in one another. Men are insecure about the size of their dicks and so they have to kill one another over the idea. That's what all that asshole jack bullshit is all about. That is what all that adolescent macho-male posturing and strutting in bars and locker rooms is all about. It is called dick fear. Men are terrified that their pricks are inadequate and so they have to compete with one another to feel better about themselves and since war is the ultimate competition basically men are killing each other in order to improve their self-esteem. You do not have to be a historian or political scientist to see the bigger dick foreign policy theory at work. It sounds like this: What? They have bigger dicks?! Bomb them! And off course the bombs and the rockets and the bullets are all shaped like dicks. It is a subconscious need to project the ***** into other peoples' affairs. It is called ******* WITH PEOPLE! So, as far as I am concerned that whole thing in Persian Gulf is nothing more than biig prick-waving dick fight. In this particular case Saddam Husein had questioned the size of George Bush's dick. And George Bush has been called "The Wimp" for so long wimp rhymes with limp George has been called The Wimp for so long that he has to act down his men with fantasies by sending other people's children to die. Even the name - BUSH is related to the genitals without being the genitals. A bush is a sort of passive secondary sex characteristic. Now, if this man's name had been George Boner... Well he might have feel a little bit better about himself and we would not had any trouble over there in the first place. This whole country has a manhood problem. Big manhood problem in the USA You can tell from the language we use. Language always gives you way. What did we do wrong in the Vietnam? We pulled out! Not a very manly thing to do, is it? Would you a ******* people, you got to stay in there and **** them good, **** them all the way! **** until the end. Stay in there and keep ******* them until they are all dead! We left a few women and children alive in Vietnam, and we have not felt good about ourselves since. That is why in the Persian Gulf George Bush had to say "This will not be another Vietnam!" He actually used these words, he said: "This time we are going all the way!" Imagine American president using the sexual slang of a thirteen year old to describe his foreign policy. If you want to know what happened in the Persian Gulf just remember the names of the two men who were running that war, Dick Cheney and Collin Powell. Somebody got fucked in the ass! Well, I tell you what. Now to balance the scale I would like to talk about some things that bring us together. Things that point out our similarities instead of our differences, because that's what you have been hearing in this country. Our differences that is all the media and the politicians are ever talking about things that separate us, things that make us different from one another. That is the way the ruling class operates in any society. They try to divide the rest of the people. They keep the lower and the middle classes fighting with each other, so that they the rich can run off with all the ******* money. Fairly simple thing, happens to work. You know, anything different that is what they are gonna talk about. Race, religion, ethnic and national background, jobs, income, education, social status, sexuality, anything they can do to keep us fighting with each other so that they can keep going to the bank. You know how I describe the economic and social classes in this country?
business analyst Paul Farrell wrote during this Iraq War.
quote: "Deep inside we love war. We want war. Need it. Relish it. Thrive on war. War is in our genes, deep in our DNA. War excites our economic brain. War drives our entrepreneurial spirit. War thrills the American soul. Oh just admit it, we have a love affair with war."
Basically you are saying that these are correct.
That is exactly what my countrymen says to me.my brother[younger] says war is just like first person shooting to us military.
@Saddle
quote: How can a majority of people fully understand anything and make informed decisions about anything with governments this corrupt? I wouldn't say that democracy is "nothing but a joke", at least in a democracy you are free to disagree; to try to change things. In many fundamentalist states and dictatorships you are not.
when we are going to change saddle when.
We most of us here are young people and elite people.It is us that will be in power for the upcoming years. We have already too much problem in our hand that we must try to complete[fix] these jobs[climate change, energy crisis, food shortage, pollution] hand in hand. If we still go in war and destroy everything then what will be the benefit. Why we should not start to change even if it is little. A little knowledge sharing, a little discussion is that little step. I know its hard and will have an affect on your reputation. Businessmen will always want to manipulate market and people for benefit that is why our prophet[peace be upon him] said"An honest and trustworthy merchant shall be with the Ambiya (Prophets) and the Martyrs and the pious men in the judgement day". That is a very big prize.We can not allow businessmen to do as they wish.
I think we must think about these things and not just ignore them we have to take responsibility even it means hardship. We must not run.
Because i do not want a big war in my lifetime.
__________________ Watch everything but only take the good things from it
Ask, think and learn. Because the more we know the more we grow.
Watching the wrong to happen is the same as commiting the wrong.
If it looks like things are forcing you to be creative, Then be creative.
its a uniquely Miyazaki film, one only he could make and its uniqueness places it beyond being easily critiqued.[About Porco Rosso] taken from a quote of Saddletank and Orphic Okapi
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