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"You are quite right, But I don't understand why western films get away with it."

The only thing I can say about it is that 'cowboys and indians' have been a mainstream of play for a long, long time and we kids (my generation) grew up with it. We were always seeing shoot'm up bang bangs on the big screen and it came into our homes with the advent of television. It was just a part of life that most of us grew up and didn't think much of it over the years. We were mimicking history, more or less.

I have been in so many 'quick draw' contests and shooting and being shot games, either with a toy gun or just a stick if necessary. And this was the 'norm' for all of us. It was just something that we did physically. Boy, did we get a lot of exercise from the play. And it made us think and stratigise as well, to plan ahead and try to ambush, if we could. I remember one time lying on a tree branch for almost 30 minutes before I got my 'shot'. Of course, it never worked again, but that was all a part of the game.

That is the only reason that I can think of for western violence being more tolerated than other kinds of violence, plus, there seems to be less mass killings in westerns than in modern films.

As for "Laputa". you see all the men falling from the Island and you know that they are going to die, but you don't actually see them splashing into the sea, far, far below and the action is so quick that once they start falling, the scene shifts and more falling and scene shift again and the mind is focused on something else and you're caught up in the action before you and you forget about the falling men...

Hope this helped answer the question and sorry for rambling on...

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Originally posted by Jertin2
Well I've only recently gotten into ghibli movies after seeing a ponyo commercial and having a "they made spirited away" moment since that was my favorite child-hood movie. Well now I'm a teen and I've seen Princess Mononoke as well and feel there is a division of movies that are made for kid audiences specifically like Totoro and Ponyo. How would everybody here classify the ghibli movies by age group?Other than it being interesting to see what age group people think a movie is for, I would appreciate it to get a good idea of which movies I'll appreciate more at my age.

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Originally posted by Guaporense
[ Unlike, for instance, action movies such as Transporter and Crank, made for males between 15 and 30.

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No, they are not just for males but the focus demographic is for males between 15 and 30. Of course, you can always find a 90 year old women who watches those movies.

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Originally posted by Heidi80
Welcome Jertin2. This is how I see Miyazaki's movie's (as has been said, none of Takahata's movies are really for children)

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This film, Panda Kopanda, directed by Takahata but written by Miyazaki is perhaps the most childish film ever made by the duo:



My Neighbor Totoro, by contrast, is a very complex film that pleases audiences from children to the film critics with the most refined tastes (Akira Kurosawa, for instance, had Totoro as one of his favorite films when he was over 80 years old and was one of the persons alive that have watched the greatest number of films).

I never liked Disney and Pixar's children's movies. They are just boring because they lack complexity, while all Miyazaki and Takahata's films besides Panda Kopanda, are complex films that have the depth to please adults even though they also have a childlike sense of wonder. A film critic said that Miyazaki's films are children's films for adults.

I have to dissagree with Guaporense's Disney and Pixar comment. I actually quite enjoy Pixar's movies (although not as much as Ghibli's of course). Some of Pixar's movies, like Toy story 3, are really quite deep and complex.

I agree with Heidi, I know I haven't been really involved with this debate, but to brush Pixar and Disney aside saying they lack complexity is silly. I understand compared to the Ghibli films they are far more universal and that can sometimes take away from the deeper themes and plot conventions, however like Heidi said films like Toy Story, can be just as complex.

Though I too agree with Heidi, I sometimes dislike Disney because of how sexist most of the movies are. I haven't seen Tangled or Brave, but I feel as though all of the other movies except Mulan have helpless, beautiful young girls waiting for the guy to swoop in and save the day. Almost all of the girls are slender, "perfect", romantic, and "weak". Mulan is the only strong character...

In general, though, I do enjoy Disney/Pixar movies.

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Though I too agree with Heidi, I sometimes dislike Disney because of how sexist most of the movies are. I haven't seen Tangled or Brave, but I feel as though all of the other movies except Mulan have helpless, beautiful young girls waiting for the guy to swoop in and save the day. Almost all of the girls are slender, "perfect", romantic, and "weak". Mulan is the only strong character...

In general, though, I do enjoy Disney/Pixar movies.

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I have to dissagree with Guaporense's Disney and Pixar comment. I actually quite enjoy Pixar's movies (although not as much as Ghibli's of course). Some of Pixar's movies, like Toy story 3, are really quite deep and complex.

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Screw your opinions, they are not relevant ^^.

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I cried towards the ending of Toy Story 3. What can I say. I have soggy eyeballs...(thats what my kids say abt me anyway...)

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I cried towards the ending of Toy Story 3. What can I say. I have soggy eyeballs...(thats what my kids say abt me anyway...)

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You and me, lady, you and me... lol
and IMO it's not being nerdy, it is having compassion in our hearts for things like that...
I have given talks that were about subjects that meant something to me and have unabashedly choked up sometimes or spoke with tears rolling down my cheeks. I was not ashamed or embarrassed by them as some men might have been. It was just the depth of my emotions coming though. I didn't acknowledge the tears or the choking up, I paused momentarily, got it back together again and continued on.

And to think how shy I was as a youngster... I hated giving oral book reports in school... lol

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