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Posted by husky51 on 09.07.2014, 10:01 AM:

Welcome Back, Theowne, Good to see you again...

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Posted by Theowne on 09.07.2014, 10:06 AM:

Good to see you guys too

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Originally posted by Roarkiller
Btw, long time no see Theowne. Where ya been?

I've been around, just focusing on other hobbies the past few years. Seeing a new Ghibli (Kaguya-hime in this case) always makes me curious to revisit the Tavern, though.

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Well art to me is something hard work doesn't cover, so yeah I doubt they'll get any directors on par with the old guys.

Yes. The truth is that sometimes masterpieces are simply the result of the right people meeting at the right time with the right opportunity. Ghibli was founded under those circumstances (Miyazaki, Takahata, and Suzuki) and their collaboration is what fueled the reputation of Ghibli. Simply continuing the brand after those circumstances have long since faded isn't something that really matters to me. All good things must come to an end, otherwise you end up with a situation like Disney, where a once respected brand has become associated with so much content of varying quality that it has become diluted.

Posted by saviour2012 on 09.07.2014, 01:45 PM:

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Originally posted by Theowne
Simply continuing the brand after those circumstances have long since faded isn't something that really matters to me. All good things must come to an end, otherwise you end up with a situation like Disney, where a once respected brand has become associated with so much content of varying quality that it has become diluted.

I agree with you in a sense. But as Japanese animation is considered not something very good almost everywhere, do you think people will actually remember Studio Ghibli and its films and recommend it to others. in case of disney that is always going to happen because of the advertisement. certainly there is a lot of low quality works in disney but there are some which is exceptionally good.

In case of ghibli almost every movie they have made is a class definer, still there are very few people apart from animators and film lovers who have actually seen a ghibli movie, specially movies like Nausicaa, Mononoke or Grave of the fireflies.

I myself would have never come across studio ghibli if spirited away did not get oscar.

So i think a brand helps to attract attention from public(many times unnecessarily) , however in case of ghibli i dont mind it.

I also dont mind if ghibli shuts down but i would like if the messages that the directors wanted to give is conveyed across the world.

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Posted by Theowne on 09.07.2014, 05:14 PM:

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still there are very few people apart from animators and film lovers who have actually seen a ghibli movie, specially movies like Nausicaa, Mononoke or Grave of the fireflies.

Very few people where? I would wager almost every living Japanese person has probably seen a Ghibli movie, or at least portions of them, at some point in their lives. Ghibli films were created primarily for the Japanese audiences and in that regard have been wildly successful. I doubt that Miyazaki will ever be forgotten in Japanese society.

Outside of Japan, yes, it is mostly enthusiasts who know of the studio. Is that all that strange? If you make films for the Japanese audience, you inherently limit the appeal to other markets. I think that's fine. The Hollywood example of films being global entertainment is a relatively isolated example, and I don't think every director or artist has to view global fame as his end goal.

Posted by saviour2012 on 09.08.2014, 01:28 AM:

yeah i am talking about rest of the world.

I think the directors are already famous enough within people that matters but i feel their films are not that popular in general public. some of those really should be popular.