Posted by Theowne on 01.05.2008, 12:48 PM: Fanservice is more widespread in anime than people think. This is because of the main audience for it. Until recently, (with shows like Honey and Clover popping up aimed at different audiences), most anime (other than mainstream shows like Doraemon and mainstream films (Ghibli)), were obscure and geared towards the so-called "otaku" crowd. The people in this subculture are associated with anime, "adult" dating sims, the "moe" trend, etc. And like it or not, most of the anime series in the past was aimed at them, which explains the fanservice. People usually get a shock when they hear that their favourite anime series was airing in Japan at 1 o'clock in the morning, because they thought it was a very popular prime-time show that all of Japan was watching. Many anime fans intentionally hide the fact that they watch anime because they will be shunned in society, as explained by one of those very people, over at Animesuki. And to be honest, looking at some of these fanservicey anime, and some of these "dating sims" , I can almost understand why. |
Posted by Saddletank on 01.05.2008, 01:31 PM: True, but I also think there is a great deal of traditional mainstream anime that has some FS in it, and in the west we notice it more than a Japanese audience would since they have different values. To us the odd distorted chest or glimpse of underwear is almost automatically a bad thing, I'm not convinced a Japanese audience would see it the same way.
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Posted by Saddletank on 01.05.2008, 01:43 PM: That is a very good point. In the west nudity and undressing is usually that of adults whereas anime depicts minors who have the physical development of adults and its the underwear and nudity of minors that is seen.
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Posted by Theowne on 01.05.2008, 01:45 PM:
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Posted by Saddletank on 01.05.2008, 01:54 PM: Yes, you're right, it's difficult ground this.
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Posted by Theowne on 01.05.2008, 02:20 PM:
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Posted by harmony-of-mar on 01.05.2008, 09:43 PM: in mar there is fanservice but only in about 3 characters.
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Posted by Saddletank on 01.05.2008, 09:52 PM:
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Posted by Saddletank on 01.05.2008, 09:55 PM: Tada! Yup! Sound of nail being hit on the head!
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Posted by Roarkiller on 01.06.2008, 01:12 AM: Yeah, there's a lot of misunderstanding on the otaku culture in Japan.
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Posted by Saddletank on 01.06.2008, 04:51 AM: Thanks Roar, interesting and useful as always. I was pretty sure the approach to minors and sex was different there but had no evidence other than anime itself where children as young as pre-teens are depicted in adult situations (living alone, dating, etc).
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Posted by Maho_Fushida on 01.06.2008, 07:24 AM: What an interesting thread, particularly about Japanese culture and the anime industry. I see we don't have many girls here either. Well fanservice doesn't bother me at all, I can see its almost completely aimed at males and seeing a few more bare male chests would be nice -
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Posted by Kazegami on 01.06.2008, 08:03 AM: OHSHC is a bit fanservice-y I suppose, it's the sort of thing you were talking about Maho, many, many bare chests lol. But one of the features of OHSHC is that it pokes fun at itself and other anime cliches so I suppose that's part of the reason for it. |
Posted by harmony-of-mar on 01.06.2008, 07:27 PM: any anime that is bishies abound, such as fruits basket or tsubasa is female fanserviced.
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Posted by Kazegami on 01.06.2008, 07:40 PM:
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Posted by harmony-of-mar on 01.06.2008, 07:45 PM: no, i meant that bishies are fanservice for female veiwers.
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