Posted by Orphic Okapi on 11.27.2013, 07:02 AM: I was going to make a new thread, but then I realized we already had this one, so I think I'll just hijack it. I haven't read any of the posts here yet, to avoid spoiling the show for myself.
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Posted by Saddletank on 11.27.2013, 07:36 AM: Welcome to EVA!
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Posted by Orphic Okapi on 11.28.2013, 06:45 AM: Ep 5 was indeed a good one. Rei was finally introduced as a character and the mystery surrounding her came to the forefront. (One caveat: Did Shinji really need to grab her boob for that scene to work? I think just walking in on her naked would have gotten the message across...) I've got some theories about her already. I think there's definitely a connection between the fact that Shinji's father cares so much about her, and the fact that in the very same episode she was directly compared to Shinji's father by another character. Those can't be insignificant details.
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Posted by arren18 on 11.28.2013, 10:21 AM: I forget whether I've posted here already, but I'm not really a big fan. Since you like things more explicitly strange, you might enjoy the later episodes, like I did. For me, it was rather dull for most of the time, then suddenly too fast-paced to take anything in, but then I ended up enjoying the section afterwards where it goes completely off the deep end.
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Posted by Saddletank on 11.28.2013, 11:20 AM: The boob-grab in that scene in Rei's apartment probably does the show more damage than good. I can see why Hideaki Anno included it, because at that point physical contact is significant. Its one of the things this early section is about, so it has its story purpose. It would not be the same at all without actual contact. It also makes Rei's reaction far weirder than it would have been if Shunji had just walked in and seen her naked. On the other hand it becomes borderline fanservice and so opens the show up to criticism. I like that moment, the contact is important and it works for me though I also admit to being uncomfortable with it.
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Posted by Orphic Okapi on 11.28.2013, 11:44 PM:
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Posted by Saddletank on 11.29.2013, 02:29 PM: I might take that back about the animation quality. I noticed it in Asuka's facial expressions one or twice and in Misato's face but perhaps this is just different artists doing the drawings.
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Posted by Orphic Okapi on 11.29.2013, 09:14 PM: Well I have now seen up to Ep 10.
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Posted by saviour2012 on 11.29.2013, 10:55 PM: NGE has a lot and lot and lot of fanservice i am very very afraid if anno directs nausica 2 then what will happen.very depressing.
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Posted by Orphic Okapi on 11.30.2013, 05:50 AM: There are tons of famous anime shows I haven't seen. I tend not to like the really popular ones, apart from Ghibli.
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Posted by Saddletank on 11.30.2013, 09:17 AM:
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Posted by Orphic Okapi on 12.01.2013, 10:08 AM: Yay weirdness! Made it as far as Ep 16 this weekend. My interest in the show has definitely gone up the last few episodes, beginning with Rei's bizarre monologue after the clip show. They're also finally beginning to raise questions about what the Evas and the Angels really are, and about NERV's true purpose.
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Posted by Saddletank on 12.01.2013, 11:32 AM: I'm pleased the material after ep.13 is more enjoyable. What is called by fans as "Rei's Solioquy" or "Rei's Poem" half-way through ep.14 is to me one of the most beautiful and heart-breaking things in the entire show. Sometimes it makes me cry. Once you have reached the end of the series, come back to that and listen to it again. In those few short almost Haiku-like lines, Rei sums up the entire essense of the show.
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Posted by Orphic Okapi on 12.01.2013, 06:42 PM: Thanks for pointing out the parallels between the three adults and the three pilots. That's an interesting angle I don't think I would have noticed otherwise. In hindsight, I can see what you meant about Utena not having as much to offer adults; I mean, I disagree, but it's true that it doesn't really have any adult characters (apart from Akio, who is more of an archetypal representation of adulthood in general, and not the most positive portrayal) and it has a slightly more melodramatic approach to its drama, whereas I can see the subdued approach in Evangelion appealing more to an adult sensibility (I'm referring specifically the interlude in Ep 15 here, the drama may get may crazier later).
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Posted by Saddletank on 12.01.2013, 07:06 PM: I noticed today while rewatching the sequence of "descent into crazy" episodes 14 thru 20 that the same music is used in Rei's soliloquy in ep.14 and Shinji's head-trip inside that weird orange-lit train or tramcar.
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Posted by Orphic Okapi on 12.02.2013, 12:39 AM:
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Posted by Saddletank on 12.02.2013, 07:53 AM: I agree, the minor comparison you make may well be the only inspirations Anthy takes from Rei although you can also say that while initially seeming to be minor and uninfluential characters, later on you discover they are highly significant and even the most significant character in the whole show. I don't think I'm giving anything away by saying that.
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Posted by Orphic Okapi on 12.02.2013, 08:39 AM: I just finished Ep 20.
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Posted by Saddletank on 12.02.2013, 11:45 AM: You're into the main course now. All these episodes are amazingly brilliant. I think they're a work of art. It's why Evangelion was such a huge influence on anime and pretty much single-handedly revitalised a flagging industry at the end of the 1990s, bringing in many more fans, especially in America and Europe.
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Posted by Orphic Okapi on 12.03.2013, 09:18 AM: Well, I marathoned the rest of the show.
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