The keyword search appears to be broken, and I did not see earthsea thread in 1st 5 pages, so here goes new one.

Last time you people complained about spoilers, but I have no idea how to discuss the movie without spoilers, and I mean, this thing was made 10 years ago, come on.

But ok.

Spoiler!, highlight to read.

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I can't answer all of your other questions, but for your first comment about 'spoilers', etc after 10 years. I use you for an example. You finally saw the movie so it is quite likely that others may not have seen it yet either....

Even with long term fans there are sometimes movies that we haven't seen...

As for me, I feel the same way about the books I read...

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I use you for an example. You finally saw the movie so it is quite likely that others may not have seen it yet either.

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It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so loving what - Stephen Fry.

I agree with all your questions. This is Ghibli's weakest work by far. It is full of paper thin characters and unexplained events. There is a story that Miyazaki got up and left the first screening of the final film part way through, apparently in disgust.

One probably needs to know the books beforehand, then things may make a little more sense but that doesn't excuse the fact they are not clarified in the anime.

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Saddles quote:

"One probably needs to know the books beforehand, then things may make a little more sense but that doesn't excuse the fact they are not clarified in the anime."



I have found over the years that because of the depth that a book or manga can go into with a story over the limited ability of most movies/anime that this is generally true

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Saddles quote:

"One probably needs to know the books beforehand, then things may make a little more sense but that doesn't excuse the fact they are not clarified in the anime."



I have found over the years that because of the depth that a book or manga can go into with a story over the limited ability of most movies/anime that this is generally true

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Watch everything but only take the good things from it

Ask, think and learn. Because the more we know the more we grow.

Watching the wrong to happen is the same as commiting the wrong.

If it looks like things are forcing you to be creative, Then be creative.

its a uniquely Miyazaki film, one only he could make and its uniqueness places it beyond being easily critiqued.[About Porco Rosso]
taken from a quote of Saddletank and Orphic Okapi

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...leave nothing to imagination

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It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so loving what - Stephen Fry.

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...leave nothing to imagination

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by that logic you are better off watching trailers than actual movies

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I agree with arren's assessment's about the movie NOT being up to Ghibli's usual standards... Yes, it did NOT follow the storyline of the Le Guin book in many aspects... Did I enjoy the anime, YES I did, but not to the degree that I enjoyed many of Ghibli's other movies...

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...leave nothing to imagination

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by that logic you are better off watching trailers than actual movies

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What? Really? Leaving room for interpretation and like, any ideas about the story beyond what is literally on the screen/page is basically the same as a brief summary of what the story is about? I really don't get what you have against watching something and thinking about it a little.

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It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so loving what - Stephen Fry.

It does not take a lot of time makc. Usually 2-5 minutes. Right after i finish a movie/book thats the amount of time that i need to imagine alternatives. You should think the process similar to the digestion of food. After we eat food, we feel full, right? And our digestion also starts. I use my imagination to absorb the knowledge/idea that the film/book wanted to portray in this time. Later if you are more interested you can feel free to research/ or do other things in order to prolong your enjoyment. Ofcourse you could watch another movie or read another book in that time. But i feel that it is better to understand one idea better that knowledge little from all ideas. It is a personal choice.

And a trailer is a concept. That is totally different from a book/movie.

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Watch everything but only take the good things from it

Ask, think and learn. Because the more we know the more we grow.

Watching the wrong to happen is the same as commiting the wrong.

If it looks like things are forcing you to be creative, Then be creative.

its a uniquely Miyazaki film, one only he could make and its uniqueness places it beyond being easily critiqued.[About Porco Rosso]
taken from a quote of Saddletank and Orphic Okapi

I think makc is trolling.

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Right after i finish a movie/book thats the amount of time that i need to imagine alternatives. You should think the process similar to the digestion of food. After we eat food, we feel full, right? And our digestion also starts. I use my imagination to absorb the knowledge/idea that the film/book wanted to portray in this time. Later if you are more interested you can feel free to research/ or do other things in order to prolong your enjoyment.

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well, you can say I am doing "research" by asking the questions right in the top post of this thread. not getting any answers, though

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I think makc is trolling.

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why, because of the star wars clip? I placed that to show that I am aware of this line of argument and so avoid it, not because that's what I really think of it.

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It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so loving what - Stephen Fry.

@makc

you are asking questions which are out of the context of the film.

read the book you will understand clearly.

Studio Ghibli is not accustomed to trilogy-duology type film. Earthsea is huge(around 1000 pages total)(there are entire websites dedicated for you to research)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthsea_(universe)

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/68041...arthsea_Quartet

Even miyazaki would have been troubled to fit all that into a single movie. The start of the movie is the weakest section thats why there are so many confusions. Your questions are from all these books. I think most here have not read them all.

I did not read the series because of its size, it is in my list of future read.

It is the only one that i hope ghibli redoes

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@makc
may i know where you are from? ofcourse you can decide not to tell if you are uncomfortable.

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Watch everything but only take the good things from it

Ask, think and learn. Because the more we know the more we grow.

Watching the wrong to happen is the same as commiting the wrong.

If it looks like things are forcing you to be creative, Then be creative.

its a uniquely Miyazaki film, one only he could make and its uniqueness places it beyond being easily critiqued.[About Porco Rosso]
taken from a quote of Saddletank and Orphic Okapi

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I think makc is trolling.

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why, because of the star wars clip? I placed that to show that I am aware of this line of argument and so avoid it, not because that's what I really think of it.

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@makc
may i know where you are from? ofcourse you can decide not to tell if you are uncomfortable.

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why, so you never come to visit ? well. I was born in ukraine. not all people are like me there, some are friendly and easy. but then, some are worse. I guess.

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You're not trying that hard to avoid it. I mean, I suppose you posted that clip to mock me for making some kind of "black and white" argument

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of course, you're free to suppose but, after I already said why I posted it, what can I say more? nope, I was referring to the same post of mine where I insisted that you either go for trailers or for complete story.

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It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so loving what - Stephen Fry.