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Originally posted by belborges
Studio Ghibli has shaped my view on life and art. Takahata and Miyazaki's insights on life, nature, work, conflict and tradition had a huge impact on me.

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It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so loving what - Stephen Fry.

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Originally posted by makc
What were those insights, specifically? I never really watched documentaries with these guys speaking, so could you please post TL;DR version of the insights that were unique to Ghibli staff?

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Originally posted by belborges
My interactions with Studio Ghibli fans on RL have been kind of...disappointing. Most of them watched some of the movies, found them cute and that's it. There's no problem with that at all, it just made me feel a bit lonely since no one had real interest in talking about and learning more about the studio. Good thing the internet's around, so I could meet more people who are interested in those things as well.

Could you show us your assignment when it's done? I'd really like to see that study in full! (I'm sorry if that's an inconvenient request)

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I get what you mean in the sense of disappointing, as whenever I talk to any of my friends about any of the Studio Ghibli films the conversation seems very limited as they just describe the films as pretty. My boyfriend on the other hand could talk for days about the visual artwork and animation (he's been a fan a lot longer than I have), so I started to get him the Miyazaki art books

I don't think I can upload my assignment here until the end of university after its been marked. But I can tell you that from my studies, in relation to loads of fan culture academics and theories, is that fans of the Studio Ghibli films are very engaging. As by looking on this tavern and other websites I can see that there's a very strong community and people are very willing to share stories with me, as well as people love producing fan art dedicated to the films/characters. However, on reddit I did get into a conversation with someone who was very opinionated. This isn't a bad thing, it just made me laugh as in some of the books I read the academics mentioned about 'different types of fans' and their response just supported those claims. So hopefully from their response I get a good grade lol. Sorry if this seems really analytical, but yeh overall that is the basis of my essay/report.

hey, thanks for the links, not sure if I will actually follow them I mean, what's the point of asking you something if I could just ask google? I get it,

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Originally posted by belborges
It would be really time-consuming to pin it all down in a single post

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It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so loving what - Stephen Fry.

My experience with Studio Ghibli started when I saw Spirited Away in my preteens. I also have a dream where the music of Laputa played, so I might have seen this even earlier in the television. The time I truly got into Ghibli, however, was in high school during one summer vacation. I was looking for animated movies in the library, and I chose Ghiblis features. I soon came back for more and watched them all. I also bought the ones directed by Miyazaki, some artbooks and the NausicaƤ mangas - around that time.

During high school I got into documentaries about Ghibli as well. These along with the movies impacted me very much. I have drawn comics for most of my life, so these made me want to develop my skills to create something similar to NausicaƤ.

I know you didn't ask for my opinion makc, but I wanted to share some things said by Miyazaki that made me choose among university and comics. In Starting Point, he wrote:

"Quite a few of today's younger animator plunged directly into this line of work because they were fans. But if I were to ask them to draw a picture of what they think of a chaika (a flying boat in Future boy Conan) would look in flight, they would only be able to imagine what they had previously seen on past TV anime shows. And I wouldn't be able to use their work as a result.
To draw chaika flying in a truly original fashion, you would need to have read at least one book on the history of flying, and then be able to use your imagination to augment what you have read.
In delving into books on the history of airplanes, you would encounter the name of Igor Sikorsky. He is the man who in 1913 built the world's first four-engine biplane and flew in the skies over Russia. When Sikorsky flew his four engine plane over Russia, he is known for having dined on board, and then when an engine failed, for grabbing on to one of the struts supporting the wings and standing up, out of the cockpit. With the full blast of the wind in his face, he personally and anxiously checked the condition of his engines. I personally think Sikorsky symbolizes the way men really fly. And it is from this image - of someone simply yearning to fly - that a good illustration emerges. I does no come from imitating something seen long ago on an animated TV series, from a plastic model kit, or even from the experience of having flown in one of today's hermetically sealed passenger planes.
Once involved in the business of creating animation, the truth of the matter is that you wind up working on project after project and rarely have time to read, study, or to come up with great ideas. And the the question invariably arises:"Why am I creating animation? What am I doing this for? Is it just to make a living?" I know I'm repeating myself here, but to avoid this trap, my advice to you all is to study."

Sorry for the wall of text. The insight I got from this was, that I need to learn more about many things - for example history - before comics like NausicaƤ can be made. I chose university with my goal and this in mind.

Edit: I corrected some spelling errors.

hey thanks! I agree there is a difference between being able to draw pretty pictures and being able to tell a good story using those pictures. so many anime with beautiful art is so lacking in plot department.

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to draw a picture of what they think of a chaika (a flying boat in Future boy Conan) would look in flight

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I am having a hard time here trying to find actual picture ) short of watching the entire thing, what are my options?

google gives me this


but I am not even sure that's the right boat.

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It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so loving what - Stephen Fry.

I'm sorry, I have not seen Future boy Conan so I cannot tell. That was the one I found with googling as well, and it seems to have a name: "Falco". Chaika could also mean a type of a plane in japanese, so it might be the one you're looking for. It is mentioned in ghibliwiki that "Monsley" pilots Falco, so that helps to narrow down the search for the scenes - if you decide to search for it in the series. However, In the quote I wrote from Miyazaki, chaikas explanation with brackets was added by Miyazaki and not me, so I'm clueless about it.

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Originally posted by Threewishes
Chaika could also mean a type of a plane in japanese

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Chaika is this thing in russian:



so the bird who can also float in the water. seems fitting for the flying boat.

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It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so loving what - Stephen Fry.

That makes sense. I practically know only the Russian letters and my "knowledge" in that language cannot be very useful if I cannot even tell what a seagull is called... But it really is a fitting name.

I accidentally saw an anime Sen to Chihiro no kamikakushi on TV.
Then did not even hear about the director Hayao Miyazaki. And became interested.

I;ve heard or seen it somewhere before, but don't or didn't really know what it meant. My russian born neighbor across the street from me, her and her husband tried to teach me some words before he died and she moved away...I basically learned how to say..."Hello, how are you?" for when her parents came to visit. I did get to tast real Russian Vodka and different kinds of caviar...

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