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Fangirl, by Rainbow Rowell. I'm really enjoying it so far! If any of you has written fanfiction, it really hits home. It's also a really great perspective on college, I think. I highly recommend it.
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I've started reading The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya (the lightnovel). For some reason I've been curious about that series for a long time now, so I figured why not give it a try.
I'm only a bit over a chapter in, and I already have mixed feelings...
On the one hand, it's fun to read. And I'm legitimately interested to see what will happen next. (I know they're gonna name the club the SOS Brigade, but I mean after that, lol.)
On the other hand, "Kyon" (How is that even pronounced?!) isn't the greatest narrator in the world. He keeps saying these pointless comments about everything.
But by far my main beef with it so far is the treatment of the newly-introduced Mikuru Asahina. So, Haruhi kidnaps her, and Mikuru's crying, and then Haruhi starts... fondling Mikuru's boobs... under her clothes....
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I don't know, call me crazy, but I find that bothersome. Or to be more specific, mean-spirited. I know, Haruhi's supposed to be this weird, aggressive person, but I think this is going too far. I'm gonna go out on a limb and accuse the author of including that for no reason other than to make his readers go jack off or something...
*gloom*
I know this is probably nothing compared to some of the other anime out there, but before I get emotionally-invested in a series, I'd like to feel comfortable with it.
I'll probably keep reading, but part of me says that it might be one of those series that it's better if I just avoid, for my own personal sanity. But yeah, I'll probably still give it a chance....
EDIT: Well, I read a number of pages further, before definitively closing the book. I am simply unable to read it anymore. It feels like it's eating my soul. I think I'm just gonna sell it.
Oh well. Sometimes I wonder if the series I'm into are completely random, like I just like whatever series I happen upon; so I guess this is at least a bit of evidence against this theory. I guess I'll stick with just reading the Rozen Maiden manga for now, which I've almost finished. (the 1st series)
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husky51
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potatotarzan
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Originally posted by husky51
Haruhi Suzumiya, the manga is a hard series to follow. I forget the order offhand, but there is a suggested order in which to get the most enjoyment out of it.
I don't know what a light/novel would be like.
( Glad you're foot's doing better, btw!  )
Yeah, I've at least heard about the weird order in the anime.
But it's not that I'm having a hard time following the story. It's just that I don't like the whole weepy-girl-getting-sexually-taken-advantage-of fanservice thing. It really creeps me out. I am instinctively repulsed by it, and I am unable to give myself permission to get used to it / accept it.
It's been a problem for me while I've been reading K-On!, which occasionally treats the character Mio badly; but she is at least a somewhat strong character. The Melancholy is going even further, with this cute and innocent Mikuru being the target. (I know she's a time traveler, lol, but that doesn't help...)
I don't hate all fanservice. I never want it to be there, but I can just ignore it in series like Ranma 1/2, where it's just like, "Look, kids: Boobs!" When it becomes a problem for me is when it is tied in to this thing about innocent people being taken advantage of.
But just to be clear, I have nothing against you if you like The Melancholy series. This is just my own personal reaction. Rozen Maiden has a few bits of highly-questionable content that I try to ignore, lol. 
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husky51
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As you said, PT, a lot of anime has fanservice, but for the most part I, like you, ignore it. I primarily like the coming of age comedy types, but also have some like "Elfen Leid". Regardless, IMO, too much fanservice detracts a great deal from the storyline in too many cases... "Chobits"; "I, My, Me, Strawberry Egg"; "Too Love Ru" again, IMO are stories that the fanservice is just a part of the story and cointributes to the humor.
In Too Love Ru, when the poor kid is in his bathtub and the (of course) human-looking female suddenly appears in his bathtub with him and he inadvertentely touches her breasts, which in her culture is a proposal of marriage, all sorts of funny things happen as a direct result. I see the humor and not the sexuality. It is there, yes, but I over look it. I think that most of us read it, and others like that, with an eye of it being just a story.
PT, I do respect your views and understand where you are coming from and thankfully, for your views, I think that their are many, many series and manga available, you just have to look for them.
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Yes, and for that I am very thankful... I think I'm getting better at seeing the warning signs that a series will contain content that I'll find offensive. With The Melancholy, all the warning signs were there, but some madness pushed me to try it anyway, thinking, "But it's Haruhi Suzumiya!!  "
Evangelion is another series where I'd say most [if not all] of the fanservice is an integral part of the narrative. There's even a scene that seems to be criticizing the whole fanservice thing in which Shinji gets excited when he sees the body of his friend Asuka, who is in a coma... and then he feels awful afterwards.
But then there was one time recently when I was at the bookstore and read a few pages of the fanservice-y Eva spinoff series The Shinji Ikari Raising Project... It's kinda funny, Evangelion is supposed to have all this disturbing and depressing material [it does, lol], and Raising Project is supposed to be this light-hearted take on it, but I found the latter far more disturbing and depressing, lol. I guess it just goes to show how I think.
But anyway.... there are a good number of manga series that I'm into and am loving, and I will have to talk more about those; but I suppose I should save that for a different thread, so I don't derail this thread any more than I already have, lol!!  Onward and upward.
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I would argue it's fairly important in Haruhi Suzumiya, since it turns out (I don't know how much you know about the plot) that Mikuru is intentionally this ideal mascot type. However, I agree that that scene is uncomfortable in the books, as I'm reading it too just now (but in Japanese so don't expect me to finish any time soon). If it helps, I can tell you that it doesn't happen so frequently as it goes on, at least in the anime version, and there are times where Haruhi gets her comeuppance.
Anyway, you might enjoy it more if you watch the anime version instead. I find that the weird order they use there is more fun, and Kyon's commentary is mainly restricted to some sarcastic thoughts.
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Originally posted by arren18
I would argue it's fairly important in Haruhi Suzumiya, since it turns out (I don't know how much you know about the plot) that Mikuru is intentionally this ideal mascot type. However, I agree that that scene is uncomfortable in the books, as I'm reading it too just now (but in Japanese so don't expect me to finish any time soon). If it helps, I can tell you that it doesn't happen so frequently as it goes on, at least in the anime version, and there are times where Haruhi gets her comeuppance.
Anyway, you might enjoy it more if you watch the anime version instead. I find that the weird order they use there is more fun, and Kyon's commentary is mainly restricted to some sarcastic thoughts.
I am glad to hear this. Especially since I already sold the book...  I can always watch the anime on Crunchyroll, if I some day feel so inclined. But first, I gotta get back into the Fruits Basket anime... It's been so long, and I need to finish it!!
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Oh, I adore Jane Eyre! It's one of my favorite classic literature novels, along with Dracula and Great Expectations.
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The Sioux War of 1876 by John S Gray.
This book has opened my eyes to the wickedness and corruption of Grant's Presidency and white man's greed in particular. Shocking. Saddening. How I wish we could undo the past.
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I'm probably the only person who didn't enjoy Jane Eyre. lol Don't get me wrong, I really liked Jane as a character. I had a really good professor for discussing this book and it was one of his absolute favourites. But, I did try to like it. I've read it a couple of times growing up and it was a favourite of my mom's.
I think it was because of Rochester. lol
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Hi, I'm currently reading the Bible for different inspirational stories and bible verses, like this one "For everything there is a season, and a time for every matter under heaven: a time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant , and a time to pluck up what is planted " - Ecclesiastes 3:1-2
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