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So I was looking through the Girls! thread and re-looked at this picture:
http://www.atomic-album.com/showPic.php/...unknown-25-.jpg --> Linked the pic because it's just huge.
We had a short puzzle as to what the book the left girl was carrying. It dawned on me suddenly that this was written in a very old style: right to left. The title of the book was "Shoujo Gahou." And as it turned out, it's the title of a REAL magazine back in the early 1900's.
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/å°‘å¥³ç”»å ±
A little search proved that the sailor uniform was indeed in use when the magazine was still in publishing.
Interesting tidbit: "In 1942, the Japanese military government issued an order to reduce the number of magazines, and to ban "pure entertainment" publications ostensibly to conserve printing paper, but also to ensure that publications would churn out war-time propaganda. Under this order, Shojo Gahou was absorbed by Shojo no Tomo." (Source) Whether its a manga magazine or just a normal one is unclear though.
And then we have WW2, which we already know is from 1939-1945, which would probably explain the injuries... and the death.
So my proposal: Who wants to write a short story? 
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Very interesting and well done on the research. I wish I knew more about the picture but now I can't even remember where I found it.
The school behind looks old, of typical pre-war timber construction, so that fits with the wartime date.
Its interesting that the magazine you mention was merged with (ceased being published) in 1942, yet serious bombing of Japan's home islands (death, injuries) didn't begin until 2 years later. I suppose it could be an old magazine copy
I also notice the skirts are quite long - in modern manga/fan art/whatever they're often stupidly short, so again another pointer to an older style.
The girls round glasses while they could be modern are equally of an older style.
Does the writing on the stone block to the left say anything or is it indeciperable squiggles?
Why are you suggesting a ghost story as a writing piece, might not this be a simple historical story or are you thinking of setting it in more modern times when the girls are grown up and their childhood friend 'returns'?
Shojo Gahou = Girl's Illustrated.
Google translate is only partly helpful:
" "Girl's pictorial" (girl method), one of the girls magazine pre-war Japan. First published in 1912, ceased publication in 1942.
As a sister magazine of women's magazine "Women's pictorial", Tokyo company founded in 1912 (1912). Issue at the time was a featured Sozo Kurahashi et al education scholars link the name to the editorial advisory, educational trend is the strong. (Published from 1916) to the Taisho medium-term, it has been found Yoshiya Nobuko was yet unnamed, posted a "Hana story". The large number of published articles - Entertainment, was increasingly entertaining since the end of the Taisho. 1942 (1942), and was integrated into the "friend of the girl" by wartime magazine integration Ordinance.
Novel
Yoshiya Nobuko - "Flowers Story"
Takeo Kato - "South and I know you" (1925, book illustration, Yumi Tsukioka)
Nogami Yayoko - "The Story of Kikuko" (November 1912), "Hinako" (January 1916 - April issue)
Ojima Kikuko - "Mistletoe" (1912), "Ki is Hime" (January 1913 - November issue), "Ayako" (January 1914 - July issue), "duckweed" ( December issue) - August 1916
Kitagawa Chiyo - "Happiness" (1925)
Cover, frontispiece
Kasho Takahata
Koji butterbur valley - in the name of butterbur valley red children, debuted in this magazine in 1920, Sugoroku or appendix cover picture of New Year issue is left up to you after six months. The change in the name Koji cover picture of February 1921 issue of "snow". Studying in Paris from 1925, "Paris image signal (N Parry Guwashi)" is published in this magazine.
Kato Masao"
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Found an early cover and an article:
http://threestepsoverjapan.blogspot.co.u...ler-part-3.html
This is a 1912 edition - can anyone here translate what looks like a list of articles/contents?
It just struck me that "Girl's Illustrated" could also be the title of the image as well as the magazine.
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...and we get a fantastic general history of the concept of "shojo" against a forum discussion of Revolutionary Girl Utena. The posts by Red Scully are worth reading.
http://www.gaiaonline.com/forum/anime-se...a/t.61690181_1/
The whole idea of the Japanese Government in the late 19th and early 20th century defining what girls should be and what (and why) they should be educated to become is fascinating. You see strong resonances of that in Japanese women and society even today.
The "woman as wife and supporter of her husband" is so deeply ingrained in Japanese culture, it shows in so much anime as well.
Thanks for sparking my interest Roar!
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Originally posted by Saddletank Does the writing on the stone block to the left say anything or is it indeciperable squiggles?
Why are you suggesting a ghost story as a writing piece, might not this be a simple historical story or are you thinking of setting it in more modern times when the girls are grown up and their childhood friend 'returns'?
1) Scribbles. Or technically, the English counterpart of cursive writing, which in my opinion is equally illegible in the modern times.
2) I... didn't. Where'd you get that?
@husky: My idea when I started this thread was to post a picture with an accompanying short, or others inspired to write a short. It's not like I can control how the thread will turn into anyhow though, if history of this forum is of any indication.
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That magazine isn't just a 1912 publication; it's the FIRST publication. Can't read most of the kanji though.
Let's do some inference from the facts.
- Glasses is holding a popular magazine of the time. From the wiki page, it seems to be a monthly publication. Unless that particular copy was very sentimental or had a special meaning or purpose, we can probably assume that it is one of the latest, if not the latest, and the year is before 1942.
- Sakura + graduation = April. Hence publication of magazine if Feb/March edition. Existence of a fourth graduation scroll would indicate that the death of their schoolmate was rather recent, or there wouldn't be a scroll at all.
- Two injuries + one death would suggest a common incident. It may not be unlikely that all three are related.
- Long hair's injury is on the neck. The only injuries I can think of is by strangulation, either by a 2nd party or suicide attempt, or neck trauma. May also be likely that the bandage is used to hide the scars. Injury by a sharp object is possible, but doubtful, as such injuries are usually accompanied by other injuries unless self-inflicted, which is equally doubtful as places for self-mutilation generally exclude the neck.
-Glasses' injury is limited to the entire calf area. Such bandaging would usually be from a deep cut, often a fall from a high place.
- Bombing of Japan began in '44 (the Doolittle raid literally did very little), but magazine publication ceased in '42. It can then be inferred that bombings cannot be the source of either injury or death.
- I therefore conclude that the war had nothing to do with the girls' story.
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I'll take a shot in the dark and guess that the girls were involved in a fall, where one died from her injuries and one badly sprained her neck. Glasses tried to help but slipped and fell. Braids... was probably too shocked, or was crying for help.
There's also a probability of drowning, but water accidents seldom cause neck trauma though.
And making it more personal, let's name them Sana, Rumi and Kaho. The deceased, let's make her Tomoe.
Backstory... probably a close group of friends who decided to enter the same high school (common setting). Just before graduation, they met at Rumi's house, which is a temple on a hilltop. They played in the woods behind the temple, where things got a little out of hands... and Tomoe slipped off a steep edge, pulling Kaho with her.
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Sorry, I must have read "short" as "ghost". How odd.
Husky I suppose you could edit your posts down to nothing?
Roar we could set the story any time between 1912 and 1942.
As with so much of this kind of thing I feel a supernatural happening of some kind. Perhaps the girls are part of the School of Shadows universe? That was my very initial thought and it fits with the fact that SoS background ran back in time a long way. The school itself was built in the 1960s on the site of a temple or shrine but the Shadows had been active long before that.
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its a pretty picture!
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They're all so unique but the same!
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