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carly28
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Ok so just realised that I am missing a ghibli movie from my collection.
I thought from upon poppy hill was my missing one but completely forgot I.do not have ocean waves!!.
Can anyone tell me its number in collection and also if its good.
Obv I get it either way but from looking at cover not sure wat to expect.
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I can't tell you what "number in the collection" it is since I have no idea what that means. Different "collections" I guess are made by different companies lisenced to release them in different countries. Ocean Waves has never been released in Britain, and it has no English dub. I bought a Japanese DVD that has an English subtitle track but even negotiating the all-kanji main menu was quite a challenge.
I do not think this movie is included in the official list of Ghibli releases but I think part of the team who produced it later went on to work at Studio Ghibli. It was a made for TV movie if I'm not mistaken and its production values are noticeably set lower due to a lower budget.
Anyhow, I love this film, its a very intense love triangle story between high school students and has a lot of angst and confusion in it, but is still a very uplifting and fulfilling story. It's set mostly down in Kochi near where Orphic is living and working these days.
Ocean Waves is one of my favourite Ghibli movies and because of its subject matter I prefer it over big blockbuster titles like Spirited Away and Princess Mononoke. Highly recommended.
BTW have you seen Takahata's "Only Yesterday"? For me there's elements of Ocean Waves that remind me of Only Yesterday.
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I'm pretty sure Ocean Waves is among the Ghibli DVDs released by Optimum. I don't have it so I'm not sure what number they put on it, but I remember it being released after the first set, so it'll maybe be around 15 or so. If you look up the Optimum website you might be able to find it.
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Ocean Waves was a project for the younger staff of Studio Ghibli, a way to gain experience in the confines of a smaller work scale (a television film). It is an official Studio Ghibli film, but Ghibli would not try this sort of experiment again afterwards, so it is the only film of its kind in the Ghibli canon.
It is a nostalgia piece, a wistful portrayal of high school emotions. Personally, I don't feel it has the individuality, depth, or timelessness of the best films of Miyazaki or Takahata, but it is an enjoyable little film in its own right.
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I love it. For me (and I'm concious that most Ghibli fans won't agree) this little TV movie is on par with Miyazaki and Takahata works (and infinitely superior to Arrietty, Poppy Hill, The cat returns, Earthesea...; contrarily to these, OW is a movie I enjoy to revisit often).
I love the subtle characters, non-obvious script - and the music. All very delicate and human, even if the animation has some rough edges, it all fits nicely.
Perhaps (in common with Only Yesterday) this is more apt to be enjoyed by not very young people, those who can look at their own adolescence from some distance? I'm not sure.
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I would agree that it is superior to the "B-tier" Ghibli films (Cat Returns, Arrietty, etc) primarily because those films try to echo the kind of filmmaking that has already done better by others, while Ocean Waves pursues something different and does it very well. I also agree with the parallel to Omohide Poroporo, in the sense that both try to target an adult nostalgia about childhood and adolescence respectively (though I think that film is the superior one).
It's quite possible that age is a factor here, for the previous reason. I myself saw it many years ago, when I was not too far off in age from the characters themselves, unlike Omohide Poroporo.
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I am not a fan of romance type movies
but it is still a good film , very true
spoiler alert [press ctrl+a]
Spoiler!, highlight to read.
specifically because the boy did slap the girl. if i was that boy i would have definitely done that and might also go to tokyo. falling for that girl depends but i have a lot of similarities with that boy. And my friends are also different just like he had. and i also had a friend just like his friend in high school. Except there was no girl.LOL  as i read in all boy school all the time until university. |
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carly28
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Thanks guys this has been very helpful. Amazon here I come.
When u say b-tier what do you mean?
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tier means class
a-tier means top quality
b-tier means good quality
and so on
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its a uniquely Miyazaki film, one only he could make and its uniqueness places it beyond being easily critiqued.[About Porco Rosso]
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quote:
Originally posted by carly28
Thanks guys this has been very helpful. Amazon here I come.
When u say b-tier what do you mean?
I take that to mean the films not made by Ghibli's main two directors. None of the others have made enough films to reasonably count them alongside Miyazaki and Takahata. It doesn't mean they're bad though - Whisper of the Heart is extremely popular on here, so it doesn't follow the trend of non-Miyazaki/Tahakata films being of a lower quality.
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I certainly would consider Whisper of the Heart alongside the "A-tier" and among the best works of the studio.
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Oh, me too of course! Really I meant that it contradicted my suggestion of tiers based on directors. But I would definitely consider it one of the best, which I suppose shows that you can't reliably categorise them in that way.
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I am yet to see this, I believe it was on Film 4 but I deleted it accidently from my planner  .
Anyways, what does everyone mean A tier and B tier films ?
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I didn't mean to start all this confusion by using the term B-tier  . I just used it to refer to the Ghibli films which are, to me, a step lower than the classics or masterpieces of the studio in quality or importance (this is subjective, of course). As arren said, who directed it tends to be a good predictor (but not always, as in the case of Whisper).
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Then again, if Whisper's director was still alive today, perhaps we could consider it A-tier under any definition. After all, he was expected to become Ghibli's next big director.
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No argument there. And not too surprising either, since Kondo was part of the same generation as the two big directors, and they worked alongside each other for a long time.
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I don't dwell on Kondo, I'm not able to. I find the what might have beens very saddening and certainly its tragic that he was't able to give more of himself.
What he did give though was amazing, and it'll always remain my favourite Ghibli, and anime.
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It's my favourite Ghibli film as well, it's so beautiful and it does sadden me and upset me knowing how much potential he had. Best not to dwindle upon it, we have moved on  .
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