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I've always known how disconnected my mind is from my body but I never knew I would actually try and grab a hot iron by the plate instead of the handle.

Still, in my defence, an iron is triangular, so Also, the room wasn't that brightly lit, so that counts, right?


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Screw your opinions, they are not relevant ^^.

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First of all, I hope that you didn't injure yourself very badly, Roar...

Secondly, big, flat, shiny side is usually the hot side!

Thirdly... I can't say it (snicker)....

You know, I think I have an iron, somewhere, but I can't remember when I've last used one...


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Sorry for the double, but it just this moment started raining outside ( sigh, where else, dummy) and it is so cool ( temp wise) and smells so nice... My house temperature has dropped 10 or 15 degrees farenheit already...
distant sounds of thunder...and the rain is getting heavier now... Anticipating flashflood warnings later...

Roof water splashing on the front walk...Mountain disappearing behind a veil of rain (only a Quarter mile distant, if that), cars splashing down the street

Young man walking down the street, already soaked... no coat or umbrella...Thunder closer now, haven't seen any lightning yet...

And now, an hour or so later, it has stopped, close up mountain is clearly visible, only a little water in the gutters...

But much more expected later today and tomorrow!!!


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Sounds like a thriller poem.

My iron doesn't have a metal base haha, so no, no burns. But you wouldn't expect me to keep holding on, would you


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Originally posted by Roarkiller My iron doesn't have a metal base haha, so no, no burns. But you wouldn't expect me to keep holding on, would you



Anyone but you, Roar, no I wouldn't....


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I voted in the independence referendum today. The voting day isn't until the 18th, but because I have to move right before the day, I had to get a postal vote instead. I imagine Kaz will be voting too on the 18th?


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I voted by post a little while ago, since I'm at university in England now. Moved down on the thirteenth. I'm actually really anxious about the referendum now. I'll be so disappointed if it doesn't go the way I want it to... I'm a 'Yes', by the way.

And yeah. I'm at university now. It's taking some adjusting to. Everyone be having fun 'cause it's like "WOOO FRESHERS WEEK", where I'm quite happy to lounge around in the flat by myself all day. I hate nightclubs. I hate them even more when I'm with people I barely know. My flatmates are all nice enough but we're juuust not quite on the same wavelength, especially the guys. They're real 'lad' types, both of them. Also my dad's really depressed with me being gone. I hope he does okay over the next few months. No more clubs for me. Too loud, too hot, too crowded. I will be boring and stay in, curl up in bed at ten with a nice cup of tea and my iPad. I just want classes to start so that my days have some structure again. Joined the LGBT and Japan societies, be meeting some people from them at the societies fair tomorrow. Will definitely be glad to be with the LGBT group. I don't think any of my flatmates 'know' about me and that's making me really uncomfortable. At the same time the thought of telling them is pretty unappealing.


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I hope that someday, people won't have to feel uncomfortable about themselves in your situation, Kaz. I've always figured that people is people and that's that. Accept them for what they are, not what you wish them to be...

While sitting here typing this, heard some noises outside. The crows have been dropping walnuts onto the roadway again to crack them open...


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Originally posted by Kazegami
I voted by post a little while ago, since I'm at university in England now. Moved down on the thirteenth. I'm actually really anxious about the referendum now. I'll be so disappointed if it doesn't go the way I want it to... I'm a 'Yes', by the way.



Find all the referendum stuff so, so interesting! Partly because I guess I'm such an outsider to it (I'm from the much vilified south-east - boo, hiss, Westminster) that I find it all really bizarre.

It's like on one hand I completely understand Scotland's desire to be independent - they don't want a Tory government they've never voted for, and from what I've read there seems to be a large deal of ideological clashes with the way England is run/heading in general. Plus there's an emotional motive to be independent and in control of themselves. There's also a lot of anti-English prejudice, but historically speaking that's pretty understandable too.

But on the other hand I really don't get it - I hope this doesn't offend you at all Kaz, I may be completely ill informed and I know as an outsider my opinion is probably neither welcomed or valid - from an economic/logical point of view? The Scottish are worried about the NHS, but their medical system is already completely devolved so there's no need for fear there. Political freedom could be achieved through becoming politically independent opposed to completely separate. Salmond appears to be anti-taxes, but they'll have to be raised hugely post a yes-vote. Scotland will be (perhaps temporarily, perhaps not) out of the EU so will suffer from losing all those privileges, they'll have to find the funding to set up 250+ global embassies, as well as putting together a whole new system of government. They'll also have to continue supporting all those on benefits (and currently Glasgow is the benefits capital of Britain). RBS have already said they'll jump ship and investors are already pulling out.

I guess the reason for this splurge of words is that I respect your opinion a lot Kaz, and I feel like I probably only get a very biased view in the media down here so I'd love to hear what you have to say. Of course if you'd rather not, than that's absolutely fine! I hope this isn't rude ahhhgh.

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My short version is I just don't get it either. I think Scotland could work towards being more independant politically without declaring themselves a separate state.

I feel that the union between England and Scotland is now an ancient thing, much hallowed and respected. If you're Estonia or Latvia and you want to break away from communist Russia after they stole your independence by force 60 years ago I can understand that, but surely Scotland is far, far better off in union with England than separate.


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First off, NC, your opinion is both welcome and valid. You're affected by this too, after all.

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It's like on one hand I completely understand Scotland's desire to be independent - they don't want a Tory government they've never voted for, and from what I've read there seems to be a large deal of ideological clashes with the way England is run/heading in general.
This alone makes up much of my motivation for voting for independence. We're a socialist country being run by a conservative government, and that is, to me, fundamentally wrong. The general voting habits of Scotland and those of England just do not match up, and never have.

Why not just settle for devolution? The way I see it, we can wrest all the powers we want from the UK government in one fell swoop, or we can wait to be given them in tidbits over the next who-knows-how-many decades. And in the end, we'd end up in a place so similar to independence that there would be no real union. It would be a union only in name, a token thing.

I'm no patriot. Patriotism to me has always seemed like an irrational and silly thing, and not a good base on which to make such an important decision. In the same vein I find those with anti-English views contemptible.

Taxes will have to go up, yes. It's a price you pay for a more equal society.

And I see the chances of Scotland not being allowed into the EU as literally zero.


Now, bed. = w=


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Kaz's points are good ones. The political tendencies are markedly different, and while it's also true that other parts of the UK have tendencies that run counter to the overwhelming lurch to the right in Westminster, we have the opportunity and I think we should take it.

It is also a chance to show that such change can be positive and achieved through peaceful, democratic means. The British system is outdated and very resistant to change, so rather than try to fix it from within, I'd rather break away and show there are better ways to do things.

To address some other issues raised: the UK government is not making the NHS exempt from an international deal that would make any privatisation irreversible. In spite of devolution, Scotland would be affected by that. I also think it's massively unethical for financial organisations to hold the public to ransom to prevent a certain result in a democratic vote - I think many are bluffing, and if not and that's really how they operate, we're better off without them.

Sometimes you have to take a chance. No positive change would ever take place if we all stuck to the status quo because it's "good enough". If there's an opportunity to move towards better than good enough, we shouldn't let it slip by.


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Not being a Scot or connected to Scotland, except thru my children's maternal lineage, nor up on all the ramifications involved, I cannot make a rational or informed decision on which is the best way to go.

Whichever way it goes, I wish everyone involved the best...

Some of my ex-wifes' relations were from Invergowrie... A number of different Scot names and places.


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I'm a European Mutt.

1/4 Italian
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1/8 Dutch
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the topic on voting process is quite difficult to comment on. My country itself was led to a bloody war for this thing, which resulted 3 millions dead. And this democratic process is very sensitive as other governments specially like india china and some others will fear this change very much.

still i am quite happy that such as incident is going to happen. And i take it positively.

however if scotland's going to get an edge is a completely different question.

I think if it happens, the first impact will be losing the brand name UK. that will have a great affect in business that includes the internal business with UK's other countries, second impact will the problems that will arise in the process of getting into EU, third impact is kinda related to EU that is about deciding the value of money. and the business and corporate systems likes to make the system as corrupt as possible whenever a new country forms, this tendency is also very noticeable in general people example: Vietnam. However the most important problem that can arise is practically the depression in people if anything goes wrong.

i just hope that everything goes well for Scotland


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Good luck with the vote today, Kaz and arren ^^

I might be doing a project on the topic, so lemme know if you're open to potential questions!


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Yeah, I could help with that. I actually did something similar the other day, for a Japanese journalist.


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I've read that even 16 and 17 year olds will be voting on Scotland's independence and I hope that they have the maturity to vote with their brains and not just because it feels good...

Like 'Oh, yeah, we're gonna be free' without thinking things all the way through. That sort of thing.

Either way, here's hoping that Scotland doesn't suffer in the end...

Good Luck, Kaz and arren...


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I wonder if now's a good time to buy gold, considering the nosediving price. I haven't seen a $1220 price since the US debt ceiling afterparty.


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I'm truly sorry Kaz and Arren that the vote didn't go the way you hoped. I can't imagine how frustrating it must feel.

Of course I'm glad that we're still a united nation, but I nevertheless feel for those who had their hearts set on independence.

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