QuickLink:
Ghibli Tavern - Love
Home Register Frequently Asked Questions Search Members List Moderators and Administrators
Ghibli Tavern » - Anime » Ghibli Discussions » Love » Hello Guest [register|login]
« Previous Thread | Next Thread » Print Page | Recommend to Friend | Add Thread to Favorites
Post New Thread Post Reply
Author
Post
Calforsale
Totoro




Registration Date: 01.19.10
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 866
  LovePost Reply with Quote Edit/Delete Post Search for Posts by Calforsale Report Post to a Moderator        IP Address Go to the top of this page

I have a bit of trouble understanding love in some of ghiblis movies. In spirited away and in ponyo, is Chihiro and Haku in love or do they just love each other? Also is ponyo and soskei in love or just love?


__________________

01.24.2011, 01:45 AM Calforsale is offline   Profile for Calforsale Add Calforsale to your buddy list
Nausicaa_Cat
Baron




Registration Date: 10.02.06
Location:
Posts: 3198
  Post Reply with Quote Edit/Delete Post Search for Posts by Nausicaa_Cat Report Post to a Moderator        IP Address Go to the top of this page

Personally I think it's just love between both 'couples' In Ponyo they're too young to love each other like that, though it would be fairly safe to assume that it might develop into 'in love' at some point. When you're a little kid though romantic love doesn't really occur to you, not in the same way.

As far as Chihiro and Haku are concerned I don't think it's romantic love because they have a more brother-sister relationship. He protects her and in exchange she puts her trust in him, though she may love him as a friend I don't see it as romantic love. Just my opinion anyway!

Couples like Howl and Sophie, Ashitaka and San or Pazu and Sheeta are more the romantic kind of couples.

01.25.2011, 12:27 PM Nausicaa_Cat is offline   Profile for Nausicaa_Cat Add Nausicaa_Cat to your buddy list
hopexx5
Totoro




Registration Date: 01.17.11
Location: UK
Posts: 698
  Post Reply with Quote Edit/Delete Post Search for Posts by hopexx5 Report Post to a Moderator        IP Address Go to the top of this page

quote:
Originally posted by Nausicaa_Cat
Personally I think it's just love between both 'couples' In Ponyo they're too young to love each other like that, though it would be fairly safe to assume that it might develop into 'in love' at some point. When you're a little kid though romantic love doesn't really occur to you, not in the same way.

As far as Chihiro and Haku are concerned I don't think it's romantic love because they have a more brother-sister relationship. He protects her and in exchange she puts her trust in him, though she may love him as a friend I don't see it as romantic love. Just my opinion anyway!

Couples like Howl and Sophie, Ashitaka and San or Pazu and Sheeta are more the romantic kind of couples.


And sejii and shizuku thay make a point of it at the end of the film.


__________________

01.25.2011, 03:34 PM hopexx5 is offline   Profile for hopexx5 Add hopexx5 to your buddy list
Calforsale
Totoro




Registration Date: 01.19.10
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 866
  Post Reply with Quote Edit/Delete Post Search for Posts by Calforsale Report Post to a Moderator        IP Address Go to the top of this page

Yeah i was thinking it was more just love than romantic love since they are sooo young but i wasn't too sure.


__________________

01.25.2011, 10:39 PM Calforsale is offline   Profile for Calforsale Add Calforsale to your buddy list
husky51
The Old Guy




Registration Date: 03.17.08
Location: Southern California
Posts: 12820
  Post Reply with Quote Edit/Delete Post Search for Posts by husky51 Report Post to a Moderator        IP Address Go to the top of this page

Hahahaha!

That's what our happy little forum does, here in the Tavern. Clear up little points of interest...

lol


__________________

01.29.2011, 11:17 AM husky51 is offline   Profile for husky51 Add husky51 to your buddy list Send an Email to husky51
dballred
Ohmu




Registration Date: 04.24.06
Location: Oklahoma City - Seattle - Tokyo
Posts: 406
  Post Reply with Quote Edit/Delete Post Search for Posts by dballred Report Post to a Moderator        IP Address Go to the top of this page

I believe the relationship between Haku and Chihiro is romantic. It's early, of course; they won't be checking into a motel soon. Nonetheless, Chihiro and Haku are identical to Sophie and Howl. The only difference is that the latter two are legal.

Ponyo Sousuke is a brother-sister replationship. Even if it weren't so as of the close of the movie, Ponyo will be living with Sousuke as his sister for the next 13 years or so. After a thousand arguments over use of the bath, the phone, who gets the bigger bedroom, etc, any chance of romance will wither away.

01.31.2011, 01:14 AM dballred is offline   Profile for dballred Add dballred to your buddy list Send an Email to dballred Homepage of dballred
husky51
The Old Guy




Registration Date: 03.17.08
Location: Southern California
Posts: 12820
  Post Reply with Quote Edit/Delete Post Search for Posts by husky51 Report Post to a Moderator        IP Address Go to the top of this page

@ dballred

but isn't Haku a river spirit? How can it be a romantic relationship??? I don't see it going anywhere in the future....


__________________

01.31.2011, 02:50 AM husky51 is offline   Profile for husky51 Add husky51 to your buddy list Send an Email to husky51
hopexx5
Totoro




Registration Date: 01.17.11
Location: UK
Posts: 698
  Post Reply with Quote Edit/Delete Post Search for Posts by hopexx5 Report Post to a Moderator        IP Address Go to the top of this page

quote:
Originally posted by husky51
@ dballred

but isn't Haku a river spirit? How can it be a romantic relationship??? I don't see it going anywhere in the future....


Thats pretty much what makes it intresting because its hard to imagine.


__________________

01.31.2011, 11:05 AM hopexx5 is offline   Profile for hopexx5 Add hopexx5 to your buddy list
dballred
Ohmu




Registration Date: 04.24.06
Location: Oklahoma City - Seattle - Tokyo
Posts: 406
  Post Reply with Quote Edit/Delete Post Search for Posts by dballred Report Post to a Moderator        IP Address Go to the top of this page

quote:
Originally posted by husky51
@ dballred

but isn't Haku a river spirit? How can it be a romantic relationship??? I don't see it going anywhere in the future....

Romance is a 'now' thing. The practical aspects, such as how to vacuum dragon scales out of the living room carpet are seldom considered.

Post last edited by dballred on 01.31.2011, 08:11 PM.

01.31.2011, 08:01 PM dballred is offline   Profile for dballred Add dballred to your buddy list Send an Email to dballred Homepage of dballred
husky51
The Old Guy




Registration Date: 03.17.08
Location: Southern California
Posts: 12820
  Post Reply with Quote Edit/Delete Post Search for Posts by husky51 Report Post to a Moderator        IP Address Go to the top of this page

quote:
Originally posted by dballred
quote:
Originally posted by husky51
@ dballred

but isn't Haku a river spirit? How can it be a romantic relationship??? I don't see it going anywhere in the future....

Romance is a 'now' thing. The practical aspects, such as how to vacuum dragon scales out of the living room carpet are seldom considered.



hahahaha vacuuming hahahaha, dragon scales... hahahaha out of the carpet... hahahahaha

hahaha, I'm still chuckling about that one, dballred....


__________________

02.01.2011, 08:39 AM husky51 is offline   Profile for husky51 Add husky51 to your buddy list Send an Email to husky51
Roarkiller
Your Daddy-O




Registration Date: 06.03.03
Location: Home, resting...
Posts: 6077
  Post Reply with Quote Edit/Delete Post Search for Posts by Roarkiller Report Post to a Moderator        IP Address Go to the top of this page

IMO the thing between Chihiro and Haku is closer to "affection" than "love" per se. At the very least, Haku may see Chihiro in the romantic sense, but definitely not Chihiro. I mean, the way I see it, Chihiro owes her life to Haku and she's grateful for that, and sees him as a BFF, but that's it.

Ponyo and Sousuke, more of a "like" than love. But eh, it's based on The Litle Mermaid, and the couple in that story are in a romantic relationship, sooo... kinda confusing on that one.


__________________
I am me.
I am who I am.
I am Roarkiller.
No one else is me.

Roarkiller.net
Isakaya High RPG Site

quote:
Originally posted by fenkashi
Screw your opinions, they are not relevant ^^.

02.02.2011, 06:54 AM Roarkiller is offline   Profile for Roarkiller Add Roarkiller to your buddy list Homepage of Roarkiller
dballred
Ohmu




Registration Date: 04.24.06
Location: Oklahoma City - Seattle - Tokyo
Posts: 406
  Post Reply with Quote Edit/Delete Post Search for Posts by dballred Report Post to a Moderator        IP Address Go to the top of this page

quote:
Originally posted by Roarkiller
IMO the thing between Chihiro and Haku is closer to "affection" than "love" per se. At the very least, Haku may see Chihiro in the romantic sense, but definitely not Chihiro. I mean, the way I see it, Chihiro owes her life to Haku and she's grateful for that, and sees him as a BFF, but that's it.

Ponyo and Sousuke, more of a "like" than love. But eh, it's based on The Litle Mermaid, and the couple in that story are in a romantic relationship, sooo... kinda confusing on that one.

The story parallels between the Haku/Howl and Chihiro/Sophie scream romance. Chihiro's BFF would be Lin. As for their ages, both Chihiro and Haku, as an average age of the genders, are capable of developing romantic feelings for each other. Girls mature a little faster than boys.

I agree that the Ponyo/Sousuke arrangement is confusing at best. I don't think Miyazaki gave their real situations enough thought.

02.02.2011, 01:15 PM dballred is offline   Profile for dballred Add dballred to your buddy list Send an Email to dballred Homepage of dballred
Roarkiller
Your Daddy-O




Registration Date: 06.03.03
Location: Home, resting...
Posts: 6077
  Post Reply with Quote Edit/Delete Post Search for Posts by Roarkiller Report Post to a Moderator        IP Address Go to the top of this page

True but I dunno... kinda hard to fall in love so deep after only a few days. Last I calculated, she was only in the spirit world for three days.

And Sousuke is only five, doubt he even knows what love feels like. Just a thought

*shrug*


__________________
I am me.
I am who I am.
I am Roarkiller.
No one else is me.

Roarkiller.net
Isakaya High RPG Site

quote:
Originally posted by fenkashi
Screw your opinions, they are not relevant ^^.

02.04.2011, 05:15 AM Roarkiller is offline   Profile for Roarkiller Add Roarkiller to your buddy list Homepage of Roarkiller
  « Previous Thread | Next Thread »
Post New Thread Post Reply
Go to:


Online Ghibli
Ghibli Tavern is powered by WoltLab, hosted by Teragon Networks