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micg huz
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Gauche the Cellist and Chie the Brat are pre-Ghibli, i.e. made before the creation of the company, but both these movies are directed by Takahata. Gauche the Cellist is being released by Ghibli this summer -it will have English subtitles too.
Chie the brat on the other hand has never been released with English subtitles, only French. If I got a hold of the french script/subtitles I would immediately translate them to English.
Yanagawa Canal Story was made in 1987, but not produced by Ghibli. Miyazaki personally funded Takahata to make a live-action documentary on the canals. I have not seen this, but it is available in English subtitles.
Future Boy Conan Special: the Revival of the Giganto - Obviously pre-Ghibli also, but I didn't know much about it until Jiji told me that its essentially just a compilation video of the last few episodes of the Future Boy Conan series
If you stick around some more, you're bound to hear about many more pre-Ghibli movies. For a bigger list of the Ghibli/pre-Ghibli cinematography (although still not quite complete) see - http://www.nausicaa.net/
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quote: Originally posted by micg huz
okay guys a lil' bit a help.
i thought id seen pretty much all the ghiblis for a long time now and then all thease others start popping up in this forum. eg:
Gauche the Cellist
Chie the Brat
Yanagawa Canal Story
are all thease realy ghibli?
why hadnt i heard about them - are they more obscure in terms of availablity? are they all feature length? and why are they not on the ghibli "complete" (obviously not really) box set i have from japan?
also 'Future Boy Conan Special: the Revival of the Giganto' id heard of but not yet seen. is it as good?
i know most of you guys are more clued up on all this stuff than me, so any info would be marvelous.
hope its sunny where you are.
peace.
"Chie the Brat", "Gauche the Cellist", and "The Story of Yanagawa's Canals" are by Isao Takahata -- the first two are animated films produced before Studio Ghibli was founded and the last one is an (almost)-live action documentary produced by Studio Ghibli -- all three are distributed by Studio Ghibli and Buena Vista Home Entertainment on DVD in Japan. "Revival of the Giganto" and "Famous Detective Holmes" are theatrical compilations of episodes of two animated TV series Miyazaki directed, and were shown alongside "Nausicaa" in theaters in 1984 -- of the two, only "Holmes" is distributed by Ghibli-BHVE in Japan on DVD.
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micg huz
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see i knew ya'l could clear that up for me.
thanks.
il check out the conan boy.... series.
thanks E_Hakki and Konan and il read the list at nausica later too.
cheers much guys.
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05.12.2006, 11:34 AM |
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E_Hakki
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05.12.2006, 11:43 AM |
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You can download the first two episodes of Future Boy Conan here: http://www.highharbor.net/en/video.html
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05.12.2006, 11:48 AM |
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micg huz
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great stuff! cheers for the link Konan.
il check it out - hopefully it works on my mac.
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quote: Originally posted by micg huz
i thought id seen pretty much all the ghiblis for a long time now ... are all thease realy ghibli?
why hadnt i heard about them - are they more obscure in terms of availablity?
I've been thinking the same thing lately, thanks aswell.
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For those that are interested in watching the entire Conan series, you can download the torrents of all 26 episodes here: http://www.prutser.com/anime/future_boy_conan.shtml
Naturally, you'll need BitTorrent to download these files, which can really chew up your bandwidth, but it's worth it. The subtitles and image quality of the v2 files are good (I mean more of the timing of the subtitles rather than accuracy as I don't know Japanese, but the subtitles make sense and so far I haven't encountered any spelling/grammatical errors, so accuracy is somewhat assumed). I haven't downloaded any of the v1 files yet, but according to the page they're simply a lower resolution version.
I've only gotten through episode six because my internet is appallingly slow, but I've enjoyed this series so far, and you can definately tell that it's Miyazaki. ![](images/smilies/smile.gif)
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05.12.2006, 05:53 PM |
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05.12.2006, 06:03 PM |
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micg huz
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hey people seen as you all seem to have somewhat supreme technical knowledge (atleast compared to me anyway) perhaps some tips on getting conan on the mac???????? iv never seeen it and cant get it to work on my mac at the places youve posted!!!!!!
cheers guys.
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05.12.2006, 06:28 PM |
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To address a few more important issues first.
Downloading anime via internet is NEVER legal. The mere act of doing it is a breach of the piracy law in itself. People tend to confuse unlicensed anime as anime that is perfectly legal to download. It isn't. It just means that the anime hasn't been distributed by a local distributor. As opposed to it, the term licensed anime does not apply to every country. If there's no distributor in, say Britain, then it would still be considered as unlicensed anime there even if America has taken up the title. Officially, every anime is licensed the moment they are produced. After all, every anime is licensed in Japan.
On bittorent for macs, just search for the term "bittorent", and you'll find a few programs that can run on the Mac. Next, you will have to look for a website that has the torrent that you want. The rest is pretty obvious.
A show released by Studio Ghibli today may not necessarily be a Studio Ghibli production. Not many people actually know that Nausicaa is technically NOT a ghibli film, being released in 1984 (Ghibli was formed in 1986). It's just that ghibli has taken the rights to "own" it.
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05.14.2006, 12:49 PM |
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quote: Not many people actually know that Nausicaa is technically NOT a ghibli film, being released in 1984 (Ghibli was formed in 1986). It's just that ghibli has taken the rights to "own" it.
I still count it as a Ghibli film though. Because it basically is one.
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05.14.2006, 01:17 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by Totoro35 I still count it as a Ghibli film though. Because it basically is one.
Made by Miyazaki =/= Made by ghibli
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05.15.2006, 12:10 AM |
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A couple of random points.
About the Yanagawa Waterways, I've got the R2 DVD and enjoyed it. The R2 version is not only subtitled, but it has an English dialog track as well. Since this is a narrated documentary, nothing is lost by watching the English version.
Roarkiller is right about the downloads. Conan is copyrighted material. If you live in a country that recognizes copyrights, then downloading it off the internet is illegal. The only time when you can legally copy or download material is if the owners to the rights let it pass into the public domain. Believe me: the good stuff is rarely allowed into the public domain.
As an example, Star Trek: the Next Generation got into legal trouble with its "Sherlock Holmes" stories when it turned out the descendents of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle still maintained the copyright.
Another: Until about ten years ago, It's a Wonderful Life was played dozens of times each Christmas season--because everyone assumed it was public domain. Wrong answer. Now it plays (in the US) once each Christmas season on whatever network pays the owners of the copyright their due.
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05.15.2006, 12:32 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by Roarkiller
quote: Originally posted by Totoro35 I still count it as a Ghibli film though. Because it basically is one.
Made by Miyazaki =/= Made by ghibli
I just got this off of Nausicaa.net: Q: Is Nausicaä a Studio Ghibli film?
Yes and no.
Studio Ghibli did not exist as a formal company when Nausicaä was made. When Tokuma decided to have Miyazaki make the film, they had to find an animation studio that could do contract work with Miyazaki supervising the project. They chose Topcraft, a studio that before had done mostly contract work for the US animation company Rankin-Bass. Topcraft's best known animated films in the US are The Hobbit, The Last Unicorn, and The Return of the King.
Nausicaa was successful enough that Tokuma wanted Miyazaki to make more films, so he formed a new company called Studio Ghibli and most of the staff and artists from Topcraft came to work at the new studio. It is not clear whether Tokuma bought out Topcraft or whether Topcraft went out of business at the same time, so the staff jumped at the opportunity to work at the new studio. So essentially the same team of animators, artists, and staff who created Nausicaä then went on to create Laputa. Because of this, although Ghibli did not formally exist when Nausicaä was made, Studio Ghibli generally includes Nausicaa as a "Ghibli film." For example, the DVD release of Nausicaä in Japan is included as part of the "Ghibli Collection" and the Archives of Studio Ghibli published by Tokuma includes Nausicaä.
That's just why I count it as one.
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