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Posted by saviour2012 on 01.17.2014, 04:00 PM:

 

so exactly how more people is going to see it?


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Posted by Orphic Okapi on 01.17.2014, 06:01 PM:

 

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Originally posted by arren18
Since the alternatives are a standard kids' CG movie, an animated sequel, and something else (though maybe Ernest & Celestine is very good, but I've just never heard of it), it will surely be either the Disney film or the artistic foreign one. Probably Disney.



Actually, Ernest and Celestine counts as a second "artistic foreign one." I'd never heard of it either, but apparently it's a French production based on a series of classic children's books. Currently has a 100% rating on Rotten Tomatoes.


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Posted by Calforsale on 01.17.2014, 11:18 PM:

 

I don't think it'll beat Frozen considering all the hype about frozen, but getting a nomination is still very good. I wonder how much studio ghibli/hayao cares about foreign response anyway...

I never knew who was up during SA, beating mulan and lilo and stitch is quite a big deal!

Edit, watched it on youtube. the other nominations were ice age, lilo and stitch, spirit: stalion of the simeron and treasure planet.


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Posted by arren18 on 01.18.2014, 04:06 AM:

 

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Originally posted by Orphic Okapi
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Originally posted by arren18
Since the alternatives are a standard kids' CG movie, an animated sequel, and something else (though maybe Ernest & Celestine is very good, but I've just never heard of it), it will surely be either the Disney film or the artistic foreign one. Probably Disney.



Actually, Ernest and Celestine counts as a second "artistic foreign one." I'd never heard of it either, but apparently it's a French production based on a series of classic children's books. Currently has a 100% rating on Rotten Tomatoes.


Ohhh I see. Kaze Tachinu is higher-profile though, as it's from a previous Oscar winner.


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Posted by saviour2012 on 01.18.2014, 04:35 AM:

 

in tomatoes its 13 vs 42 and 4000+ vs 340+ [so 100% does not count, and it actually only means how much new things in the film there is]

larger is wind rises

but the look and feel is almost like takahata's one in earnest and celestine


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Posted by saviour2012 on 01.18.2014, 04:39 AM:

 

a question to the people who saw the wind rises. how enjoyable[nothing else] was the movie? compared with howl and spirited away and also overall


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Posted by arren18 on 01.18.2014, 12:35 PM:

 

I liked it. The plot feels like it doesn't have a particular aim - as it goes on, you don't feel like it's heading towards something, and it doesn't have much in the way of a big climax, though the ending is still quite affecting. It feels more like a Takahata film really, as it doesn't have a lot of the things we expect from Miyazaki's works. There are fantasy aspects, but only in dreams, a little like Whisper.


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Posted by Orphic Okapi on 01.18.2014, 06:30 PM:

 

Well, Arren, it is a biopic after all. I think it would be weird if the plot was heavy on action or moved swiftly toward a clearly defined climax. Because life isn't like that. In that sense the movie is quite different from Miyazaki's other works, but not really different from any other biographical film. It would be really hard to stretch the events of the average person's life to fit a traditional rising-action-falling-action plot diagram.

So the aimlessness Arren talks about didn't really phase me. I wouldn't say the movie is Miyazaki's most sheerly entertaining, as it's pretty slow moving and mellow for most of its run time. But I would say it's easily Miyazaki's best film since Spirited Away.


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Posted by Theowne on 01.18.2014, 07:52 PM:

 

Well, I would say Miyazaki does actually stretch and mold Jiro's life and personality a bit in his film. The entire romantic subplot, for example, is fictionalized, and Jiro's ideals and morals feel like a mixture of Jiro and Miyazaki himself. But it's definitely true that the approach to the film - chronicling a person's life work - gives it a different feel in storytelling to a contained adventure like, say, Laputa or Mononoke.

And I definitely agree it is Miyazaki's best film since Spirited Away.


Posted by Theowne on 01.19.2014, 01:36 AM:

 

By the way, I just noticed Ernest et Celestine mentioned a few posts ago.

It's a gentle and charming French-Belgian film that has been made with a lot of heart, and certainly the underdog in the category. It's up there with Wind Rises in terms of deserving the award.


Posted by saviour2012 on 01.19.2014, 04:45 AM:

 

since spirited away

its not better than laputa or kiki


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Posted by arren18 on 01.19.2014, 05:16 AM:

 

I didn't really mean that as a criticism, more as a warning that one shouldn't expect the kind of storytelling that we usually see from Miyazaki. I did find it a little slow and meandering at times, but for the most part I appreciated the different pace.


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Posted by husky51 on 01.19.2014, 01:21 PM:

 

sigh... It'll be a while before I get to see it...


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Posted by saviour2012 on 01.19.2014, 02:00 PM:

 

feb 21 husky


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Posted by arren18 on 01.19.2014, 10:07 PM:

 

Yeah, it won't be so long! It might be tricky to find it with subtitles though... Of course, that might not be a problem for you. I just prefer to have the original audio. The dub cast actually sounds pretty decent.


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Posted by saviour2012 on 03.03.2014, 05:35 AM:

 

So The Wind Rises did not get the Oscar as we suspected.

booooooooo oscar committee boooooooooooo


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Posted by arren18 on 03.03.2014, 07:50 AM:

 

Yeah, it's a shame but unsurprising. Never mind. There are other awards to be won.


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Posted by husky51 on 03.03.2014, 12:57 PM:

 

Who did win it instead of Wind Rises...


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Posted by saviour2012 on 03.03.2014, 01:13 PM:

 

quote:
Originally posted by husky51
Who did win it instead of Wind Rises...



FROZEN

ofcourse

As people started to compare it with The Lion King.


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Posted by arren18 on 03.04.2014, 09:37 PM:

 

Related: the Academy doesn't give a damn anyway.


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