Posted by Roarkiller on 07.07.2013, 01:12 AM:
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Posted by arren18 on 07.07.2013, 03:51 AM:
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Posted by saviour2012 on 07.07.2013, 04:02 AM: i do not know if you guys noticed or not but all the miyazaki masterpiece [novow,pm,mnt,lcits] has atleast one grand action scene. where all the characters can be found.
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Posted by Orphic Okapi on 07.07.2013, 04:36 AM: Um, does My Neighbor Totoro really contain a "grand action scene"?
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Posted by Saddletank on 07.07.2013, 09:48 AM:
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Posted by saviour2012 on 07.07.2013, 12:34 PM:
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Posted by Orphic Okapi on 07.07.2013, 05:27 PM:
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Posted by arren18 on 07.07.2013, 05:52 PM: Yeah, I was thinking the same as Orphic. "Climactic emotional event" doesn't necessarily imply action scene, and if it does, then are you saying that what makes Miyazaki's films so special is that they have something most stories have?
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Posted by Saddletank on 07.08.2013, 02:35 PM: Climactic emotional event, yes. That's what I meant. It can include action or not, though I am not sure what the definition of 'action' is. It certainly isn't expolsions, gunfire and Bond finally taking down the world-dominating bad guy. I think you can have action events that are far less explosive but still count as action.
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Posted by husky51 on 07.08.2013, 05:17 PM: Three examples in one movie that stand out to me are Kiki's being chased by the crows; Kiki and Tombo flying down the streets on his bicycle and finally the big part involving the airship...
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Posted by Orphic Okapi on 07.08.2013, 11:10 PM:
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Posted by saviour2012 on 07.09.2013, 04:31 AM:
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Posted by Orphic Okapi on 07.09.2013, 05:18 AM: Thanks for elaborating on your views, although I still can't say I agree with them. Miyazaki may be only one artist, but he's capable of making more than one kind of movie, and so to judge every one of his films by the same standard (and a weird one at that - whether or not it has some grand life or death situation) seems bizarre to me. Now it sounds like you really are saying that for a Miyazaki movie to be a masterpiece, it has to have a huge, action-movie-style set piece.
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Posted by arren18 on 07.09.2013, 07:42 AM: Again, I'm on Orphic's side. It seems unfair to judge each of Miyazaki's films based on whether they contain a particular important scene - after all, what if he were to make a film that had one spectacular and impressive scene, but the rest of it were terrible? The point I made before this discussion was that I was pleased to hear that this sounded different from his other work, which tends towards the same story types. So for me, if the new film is unlike his usual output, that's great! And so I intend to judge it based on its own merits.
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Posted by Saddletank on 07.09.2013, 05:54 PM: The climactic and important event in Porco Rosso is the man finding himself, understanding himself, seeing his own weaknesses and becoming a better person because of that. There's a colossal spiritual breakthrough at the end for him I think; he also finds true love. The story is about him. Its not called "Porco Rosso and the Air Pirates" or "Porco Rosso in Mussolini's Italy", just "Porco Rosso". I think there is only one other Miyazaki film named solely for an individual and that film isn't about that individual so much as her interactions with a whole alien world.
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Posted by saviour2012 on 07.10.2013, 06:04 AM:
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Posted by Mush on 07.10.2013, 10:53 AM: We might be drifting from Kaze Tachinu in this thread, although I'm okay with that...
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Posted by saviour2012 on 07.10.2013, 01:10 PM:
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Posted by San Toelle Ul Shichikokuyama-g on 07.10.2013, 02:19 PM: Oi, don't bring that up again, remember how chaotic it turned last time.
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Posted by Saddletank on 07.10.2013, 05:09 PM: Hideako Anno is looking remarkably perky. Life must be being good to him at last.
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