Posted by makc on 07.12.2016, 02:32 PM: grave of the fireflies question Hello,
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Posted by Saddletank on 07.12.2016, 05:28 PM: Been a long time since I saw the film but IIRC that end scene is symbolic. They both died in the war.
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Posted by husky51 on 07.13.2016, 12:11 AM: Yes, again, like Saddles, iirc, the father died aboard ship in the navy and the mother later and the kids try to survive trying times...
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Posted by makc on 07.13.2016, 06:29 AM: it is obvious that kids are ghosts from the very beginning of the film where the boy says loud and clear that he died. it is also obvious that the mother died, too, since they burned her body. the question is, how come whole family is not re-united as happy ghosts family, and it's only boy and girl?
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Posted by Saddletank on 07.13.2016, 10:44 AM: I wouldn't say they are ghosts from the beginning of the film; the film is clearly their story of their experiences in the war when they are very much alive.
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Posted by makc on 07.13.2016, 11:00 AM: true about flashback, but kids tinted in red are ghosts.
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Posted by Seiji Amasawa on 07.19.2016, 02:26 AM: All I remember of this film is how depressing it was, I'll not watch it ever again. War is hell, not only on the soldier but the people it affects. This movie is one of the best depictions of why this is so.
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Posted by Saddletank on 07.19.2016, 04:14 AM: Agreed. I, too watched it once and won't again. Just too upsetting.
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Posted by makc on 07.21.2016, 08:10 PM:
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Posted by Saddletank on 07.22.2016, 12:27 PM: No, the woman cast them out, that was clear. She didn't have the resources to feed and look after them, or the social concern to do so. The war's pressures had forced her to only look out for number one as well. Its definitely a story of innocent suffering in war rather than the inability of youth to cope with the adult world.
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Posted by Seiji Amasawa on 07.24.2016, 11:02 PM: I found the film did too much of a good job of depicting the horrors of war. By this I mean it was so well done that I never want to relive it again, like a real war. So in a way this is why this is one of my least liked Ghibli Films. I’ll explain why, for me if I watch a movie it needs to have some feel good moments or something to say “Oh well that was sad but this happened so it’s better then nothing”, but for me all I felt was lose after lose and an impending doom throughout the film. I’m sorry but being a Soldier and a Farther and seeing the death of children so well depicted is something I don’t like to see. War is bad, very bad, we need to understand it, but not live it or see it like this.
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Posted by husky51 on 07.25.2016, 04:08 AM: The passion and the horror of the plight of the the children and their ages is what does it in for me and makes me not to want it ever again. As I've said in here before, I was 9-1/2 when my sister was born and she was 3 days old when I gave her the first bath at home... From that point on for many, many years I seemed to be her primary caregiver and had recurring dreams (nightmares?) about having to climb a tall ladder with her in my arms with a bowl of food.
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Posted by makc on 07.26.2016, 10:22 AM:
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Posted by sunhuntin on 01.31.2018, 12:03 AM: the first time i watched this, i was determined to never watch it again. it was so well done, it broke me.
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Posted by makc on 02.01.2018, 05:48 AM: well they have like 200% of GDP public debt, it's not that hard to be the power house of technology under these conditions.
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Posted by belborges on 03.12.2018, 09:54 AM: Good point Makc, I didn't think about that. It's really weird they hadn't encountered their parents as ghosts when they were all dead.
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Posted by makc on 03.12.2018, 08:41 PM:
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Posted by husky51 on 03.13.2018, 02:58 AM: He was fifteen years old!!! 15!!! How many children of that age and having gone through the horrors of losing their parents, especially the mother... How mnay have the capacity to make intelligent decisions about himself and his sister?
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Posted by makc on 03.13.2018, 09:04 AM:
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Posted by husky51 on 03.13.2018, 01:41 PM: If I remember it right, the adult woman was their aunt? |
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