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Posted by arren18 on 11.08.2022, 11:24 AM:

  Pre-Ghibli work by Miyazaki and Takahata

I've been wondering recently - besides Castle of Cagliostro, which I think is pretty well-known around here, what other things has everyone seen by Miyazaki and Takahata from before they founded Studio Ghibli?

As a reminder, there are these films:
Horus, Prince of the Sun (Takahata, 1968)
Panda! Go, Panda! (two short films, Takahata director, Miyazaki writer, 1972-3)
Chie the Brat (Takahata, 1981)
Gauche the Cellist (Takahata, 1982)

And these TV series:
Lupin III first TV series (Miyazaki & Takahata after the first few episodes, 1971)
Heidi, Girl of the Alps (Takahata, 1974)
3000 Leagues in Search of Mother (also called Marco: From the Appenines to the Andes) (Takahata, 1976)
Future Boy Conan (Miyazaki, 1978)
Anne of Green Gables (Takahata, 1979)
Sherlock Hound (Miyazaki on the early episodes, 1986)

I don't remember people talking about these on the Tavern, but has anyone seen some of them?


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Posted by Kazegami on 11.09.2022, 06:40 AM:

 

Hmm, the only one of these I've seen is Horus, Prince of the Sun. It was years ago, so I don't remember much about it, but I recall not liking it very much.

I'd be interested to watch Gauche the Cellist and Heidi sometime.


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Posted by husky51 on 11.09.2022, 11:45 AM:

 

I've seen Horus, Prince of the Sun; Heidi of the Alps; Gauche, the Cellist; Panda, go Panda; Puss n' Boots... But, as Kazasgami said, they were seen so long ago, that I cannot remember the plusses and minuses of any of them...


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Posted by ButaPairotto on 11.09.2022, 12:59 PM:

 

No I haven't I wonder where one could find these?


Posted by arren18 on 11.09.2022, 01:49 PM:

 

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Originally posted by husky51
I've seen Horus, Prince of the Sun; Heidi of the Alps; Gauche, the Cellist; Panda, go Panda; Puss n' Boots...


Wow, you've seen quite a lot really! I didn't even think of Puss n Boots.


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Originally posted by ButaPairotto
No I haven't I wonder where one could find these?


Horus and Panda Go Panda have definitely been released on DVD (maybe Blu-ray?) in English. Possibly the Lupin III TV series and Sherlock Hound too. Weirdly, Gauche was released with English subtitles but only in Japan, and Chie has no official English release. Not sure about the other TV stuff.

Other than finding those DVDs (some are probably not so easy to get hold of), I think all you could really do is find an unauthorised stream or torrent somewhere. They definitely exist for at least some of these.


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Posted by husky51 on 11.09.2022, 05:24 PM:

 

I don't generally promote 'pirating' DVDs, etc, But I have to admit that when I first started collecting Ghibli's, my finances and the availability of the early Ghibli's were such that I couldn't afford the high prices of them and much of my viewings/collection were bought through releases from other countries... In later years, and a movie was first released and hit the US Market, I bought those Ghibli/Disney releases...

I just now went to eBay and typed in the Heidi and Gauche titles with 'ghibli' after the titles and found both of them... Most of the prices are US$100 to 200 and up, but there are two DVDs from
So Korea more moderately priced... albeit, sometimes the quality of these are not the best...

Edit:

I do wish that Ghibli would release a collection of the Ghibli Museum 'shorts'... I would love to see them... I DO understand the 'why' of their restricting them to Museum showings, but THOUSANDS of us will never be able to visit Japan and the Ghibli Museum...


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Posted by arren18 on 11.12.2022, 05:18 AM:

 

It is a shame it's so hard to see the Ghibli Museum shorts. They're not quite so restricted anymore, now that the Ghibli Park also shows them, but it still makes it unrealistic for most people to get to see them all.


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Posted by husky51 on 11.12.2022, 11:26 AM:

 

Pixar released "Pixar Short Films" with 13 shorts and a bonus.. "The Pixar Shorts-- A Short History" which I have and watch periodically...


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Posted by ButaPairotto on 11.13.2022, 11:02 AM:

 

Pixar shorts are generally incredible, I wonder if Ghibli shorts are as impactful?

I think I've seen one or two ghibli shorts. One about a big house if I remember.. And one called Yuki's Sun, which you can actually watch on Youtube. It's supposedly Miyazaki's first short film.


Posted by husky51 on 11.13.2022, 12:09 PM:

 

I will check it out!!! Thank you..


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Posted by ButaPairotto on 11.13.2022, 04:49 PM:

 

Let me know what you think!


Posted by husky51 on 11.13.2022, 10:14 PM:

 

OK... It was just under 5 minutes, but I think that I saw a Ghibli influence in the little clip... Hard to say, what with the jumping around from scene to scene... I wish that I could see the whole film that I might get a little more continuity and maybe get a fuller understanding of the story...

edit:
later this evening, I will try and watch the clip 3 or 4 more times or more and see if I can get a better feeling for/of what I am seeing...


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Posted by arren18 on 11.03.2023, 04:27 AM:

 

Yuki's Sun now has a formal release! It's streaming with English (and other) subtitles on the MUBI service: https://mubi.com/en/gb/films/yukis-sun


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