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Hai!..

i'm new member!....hehehee.... Do you all wish to make own animation??.... i think yes! right?...

emmmm......i have my own Strategy!! I have 6 movies that I wish to do it! :

-MossSea
-Gulf Treasure
-Hidden Generation
-Chaos in Redang (Redang is a island!)
-Morning Mist Memory
-Wrong Invitation

that's all!!...maybe all of you had discussed it before....but it's ok to discuss it again, right??...

ok, peAce!

(I'm not so expert to speak english!sorry ok??...I'm trying my best!!)

bye!

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hey yeah!! that's cool!! how do you plan to do it?
send me a message.

what's your nationality?


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McEllen Charles Darlantan (McCD for short) what's yours?

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AHeee...

My name is Mohammad Khairul Bin Omar....I lived in Malaysia...

sorry if i'm not speak English very well....i'm still in learning processsss.....altouhgt i get A in english subject of my exam.....i must read the dictionary every time!!...

correction :

Chaos in Redang ( Redang is AN island!!)

it's AN right?...not A!!... ^_^:"

....i'm 16 years old!!....i'm still study maaaa... i should go to University first!!.... it's not easy to challenge Miyazaki!!....

it's dificult to me to tell you about the synopsis....i can do it but it's take times!!.... you maybe not understand if i story it to you....

MossSea - about the pollution of sea....

something like that laaa.....

Do you know where is Malaysia??...

My freind has a japanese freind when he go to Japan...
but the japanese freind does not know where is Malaysia!!....how embrasing....hehehe....i hope you understand what i talking about.... "D
Maybe Malaysia is still not famous as Singapore or Thailand, is it??....

ok, that's all...

bye!!

peAce!

(you are my first foreign freind!!) thanks!!

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Malaysia, eh? That's just south of Vietnam, isn't it? Interesting place, I've heard.

Well, anyways, I think that making an animation movie is a cool idea! And pollution is eye-catching!

Oh, and, it is "an", not "a". You got it!

It's cool if don't speak English perfectly; you speak it better than some people I know. Peace!


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What's your animation??....any plan?...

what's your nationality?.....

I love :

1. My neighbour Totoro
2. Princess Mononoke
3. Spirited Away
4. Nausicaa
5. Laputa
6. Kiki's Delivery Services
7. Porco Rosso (I hate this movie!!! but i like Fio!)

8. Howl's moving castle (i can't wait anymore....i hope it will released as soon as posible in Malaysia....)

peAce! ^_^

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Amazing how u can get an 'A' for english, looking at the kind of english u use, even for net language. Not that im trying to insult u or anything. After all, im a malay too, tho i live in Singapore (juz below ur country).

No i dont wish to make my own animation tho. Im a passive person when it comes to anime, plus id rather study languages.

Btw, reading dictionaries is NOT a good way to improve languages, but watching TV is, lol.

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Reading also helps when learning a language.
Back to topic...

I'm starting an animation studio myself. Sofar I'm doing short movies, and, well, they're still on the story boards
here's a snyope of one of my stories-
A collage and his roomate were getting way out of shape cuz of not getting out a lot. So then they decided to get up a 6 every morning to run a mile. Well, on the first day they found themselves gasping for air by the fith building they jogged by. The rest of the day was pure hell for them. So the next day, one of the roommates was chuging out of oragn juice and looking at one of the most parcular shapes in the kichtion, a blender. He than begin reading the blender's buttons, and noticed one of them says 'jog'. Pushing the jog button, the collage student got the fealling inside of him that he jogged. His roomate then cameout, and told him something that has never before been told throughtout the history of man, "Look at the blender, dude." His roomate saw the jog button, and pushed it with great pride, too. So for every morning, they jogged.

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get yourself a story board first.... like a comic version of your story... I say that's the first step !!

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I wish to have my story to be published by Studio Ghibli someday. Would there be much of trouble, if I published the story in these forums, and one day Ghibli would be willing to make a movie of it? This question is purely hypotethical, but nevertheless tell me what you think of it.


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Im making my own animated short film currently....no animation training learning as I go.
www.lightanime.tk

Influenced by Ghibli,Disney & animators such as Richard williams, Yuri nortsein.

You have better chance of self funding your project rather than hoping that Ghibli will do it.


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quote:
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You have better chance of self funding your project rather than hoping that Ghibli will do it.



Good luck on your upcoming project!

But what comes to my story, it will require a whole lot more resources, than my current personal effort. Although I agree about the odds being against me (they are actually quite nonexistent), I would still like to make my bet in Ghibli's Casino. I may not be the most self-confident and optimistic person, but I have a good foundation to begin with.

I'm still hoping that someone would answer to my previous question...


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quote:
Originally posted by Hakumaku
Im making my own animated short film currently....no animation training learning as I go.
www.lightanime.tk


Wow that is great. I have never thought of making an animation all by myself. Wish you all the best.

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But what comes to my story, it will require a whole lot more resources, than my current personal effort. Although I agree about the odds being against me (they are actually quite nonexistent), I would still like to make my bet in Ghibli's Casino. I may not be the most self-confident and optimistic person, but I have a good foundation to begin with.

I'm still hoping that someone would answer to my previous question...



I really do not think there is any way that you can turn your story into a Ghibli feature film, except if:

[list][*]...you have your story published, and your book turns out to be an all-time bestseller, like Kiki's Delivery Service or Howl's Moving Castle. Then wait, wait and wait. If you have that kind of luck, the Ghibli staff may pick yours among thousands of bestsellers around the world to produce a film. To have a general idea on how long it would take for Ghibli to pick you (provided that you were the lucky one), you may take a look on the publish year of Kiki and Howl's. The former was published in Japan 1985, and was released as a movie 4 years later. While it took 18 years for the latter, a book published in the English world, to have a theatrical release as a Ghibli film.

[*]... you have good artistic skills, and you can speak Japanese very well. Keep an eye on the annual trainnee recruitment program of Ghibli. If you are lucky enough and get recruited, work really hard. After you are granted a permanent contract, work even harder and show your potential to be a director. If you are lucky enough, you may be able to get a short movie project, like Hiroyuki Morita who started as an in-between animator of Kiki, worked hard for over 10 years, and eventually be picked as the director of a film-short. He did not overlook his job and devoted himself. At last Suzuki was impressed, and allowed him to extend the film-short and produce it as a movie (The Cat's Return). This was not yet the end of the story, though. You need to continue to produce great works and enhance your reputation, until the seniors have confidence on you, and let you to have a free hand on everything, including the story, the screenplay and the storyboards. It was when you could finally realize your dream .[/list]


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Thanks Jiji ^^

Azhur...
Animation is incredibly hard work....in fact not work its part of your life.
Ghiblis working regime is intense...If you have the determination and hard working...plus willing to sacrifice everything...social life etc
We are talking 8 am to 2-3 am 7 days working hours here. Especially running up to deadlines.

Its all up there in their films the amount of dedication involved.

If you feel you have what it takes go for it! ^_6


Me....I have too many of my own ideas to work on someone elses project....Its why I decided to go independantly.


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quote:
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[list][*]...you have your story published, and your book turns out to be an all-time bestseller, like Kiki's Delivery Service or Howl's Moving Castle. Then wait, wait and wait. If you have that kind of luck, the Ghibli staff may pick yours among thousands of bestsellers around the world to produce a film. To have a general idea on how long it would take for Ghibli to pick you (provided that you were the lucky one), you may take a look on the publish year of Kiki and Howl's. The former was published in Japan 1985, and was released as a movie 4 years later. While it took 18 years for the latter, a book published in the English world, to have a theatrical release as a Ghibli film.

[*]... you have good artistic skills, and you can speak Japanese very well. Keep an eye on the annual trainnee recruitment program of Ghibli. If you are lucky enough and get recruited, work really hard. After you are granted a permanent contract, work even harder and show your potential to be a director. If you are lucky enough, you may be able to get a short movie project, like Hiroyuki Morita who started as an in-between animator of Kiki, worked hard for over 10 years, and eventually be picked as the director of a film-short. He did not overlook his job and devoted himself. At last Suzuki was impressed, and allowed him to extend the film-short and produce it as a movie (The Cat's Return). This was not yet the end of the story, though. You need to continue to produce great works and enhance your reputation, until the seniors have confidence on you, and let you to have a free hand on everything, including the story, the screenplay and the storyboards. It was when you could finally realize your dream .[/list]



My mother is a novice author, but I do not possess such a gift, and thus closes the first already desperate option. Neither can I speak japanese at all, which again closes the second alternative. Yet I have some optional pros:

[list][*] I could make a potential 160-pages long screenplay in proper english (I've got a close relative who can translate it fluently). Its quality may be a matter of taste, but like I said before, I've got pretty good basis. I've read tens of official screenplays, seen thousands of movies, and know how to make it in a legal way.

[*] I can't really make storyboards, but visually accurate sketches, which reveal the core characters and places.

[*] My imaginative inspirations reach beyond all limits, yet I'm trying to make the story as believable as possible.

[*] I'm good at making original messages, themes and metaphors. I can also present them in a spectator-friendly way.

[*] I have the patience and time to polish my story into a balanced and fluent tale.

[*] The characters are far from your American stereotypes or some low I.Q'd spikyhair -animes. My ideal individuals act naturally, living their routine life with varying personalities, which will develop as the story proceeds.

[*] Well this isn't technically a pro, but I'm only looking for a place as a screenwriter, so the director's seat isn't for me.

[*] Screenwriting job is definately my greatest dream to have, and that if something is gonna fuel up my working pace.

[*] I'm not ambitious, rather a noble person who merely wants to live his place in this world.

[*] Last, but not least, I can and I will avoid all sorts of clichés. Thanks to my long experience with the movies, that shouldn't be too difficult.

I really doubt, that these motives will be enough to qualify me to work in Studio Ghibli. While this sounds very naive, I'm still determined to do everything that I can, to have my story to be published by this famous Japanese animation studio. I am not just some everyday fan, trying to desperately please everyone. I'm confident that there must be some kind of an effect, when I'll be dropping my "A-Bomb plans" right onto Ghibli's terrace. Well.. only time will tell.

Btw. Could someone still answer to my question, that would there be some sort of issues, if I published the core of my story in these forums? [/list]


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I wish to make my own stories and animations, but my gift is really lacking. I started most of my stories 5 years ago, and i still haven't finished my first page. It's like a jumble of confusion, i don't know what to do with the story, what order i should put it in etc. I never knew it was that challenging.

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quote:
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My mother is a novice author, but I do not possess such a gift, and thus closes the first already desperate option. Neither can I speak japanese at all, which again closes the second alternative. Yet I have some optional pros:

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Btw. Could someone still answer to my question, that would there be some sort of issues, if I published the core of my story in these forums?



Sorry. I am afraid OnlineGhibli.com is merely a fan site and has no connection with the Studio Ghibli in Japan. Even though there are quite a number of hits from Japan, I am not sure if there are any Ghibli staff members that are frequent visitors of these forums. Even if an in-between animator of Ghibli read your story here and falls in love with it, that would not have much effect, as most of the matters are decided by the few heads high up above.

It is the tradition of Ghibli for the director to do the screenplay himself. Or if he cannot handle it Miyazaki will take up the job. So I am not sure if the studio will be interested in producing a movie by folllowing a finished screenplay. After all it is their habit to add in all kinds of Ghibli stuff into others' story, and an established screenplay prevents them from doing so.

However I can see you are really serious with the issue, and I am very interested in your story. It would not hurt to post the story here, would it? And if Suzuki comes across...

I think what you can do at the meantime is to ask your relative to have your screenplay translated, then send both the original and translated copy to Studio Ghibli. You should also include a formally written letter in both English and Japanese, explaining what the screenplay is for, why you send it, and all other things you would like to say.

To present your work to Ghibli, I would suggest using snail mail. After all their email box is stuffed with thousands of fan mails everyday and they may not be able to carefully read them all. And snail mail does help to show your seriousness and sincerity.

Wish you all the best!

Address and TEL of Studio Ghibli:

[list][*]Studio Ghibli
1-4-25, Kajino-cho
Koganei-shi, 184
Japan

[*]株式会社 徳間書店 スタジオジブリ事業本部
〒184-0002 東京都小金井市梶野町1-4-25

[*]TEL: 0422-53-5674(代表)[/list]


Email of Studio Ghibli:
post@ghibli.co.jp

note: they have clearly specified in the official Ghibli site that they will NOT reply to emails.


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I wish to make my own stories and animations, but my gift is really lacking. I started most of my stories 5 years ago, and i still haven't finished my first page. It's like a jumble of confusion, i don't know what to do with the story, what order i should put it in etc. I never knew it was that challenging.



Hehe the same for me.

Maybe you can complete a plot first before start writing? It maybe helpful if you are a beginner. But you know, for the almost-perfect Miyazaki works, the story, screenplay, storyboards, cel productions and every other thing is done all at the same time. So when you are confident with your skills and ideas, you can try the Miyazaki method then.


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quote:
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Sorry. I am afraid OnlineGhibli.com is merely a fan site and has no connection with the Studio Ghibli in Japan. Even though there are quite a number of hits from Japan, I am not sure if there are any Ghibli staff members that are frequent visitors of these forums. Even if an in-between animator of Ghibli read your story here and falls in love with it, that would not have much effect, as most of the matters are decided by the few heads high up above.




That's okay I was just wondering if it is legitimate to release script after it has been somewhat spoiled in forums.

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It is the tradition of Ghibli for the director to do the screenplay himself. Or if he cannot handle it Miyazaki will take up the job. So I am not sure if the studio will be interested in producing a movie by folllowing a finished screenplay. After all it is their habit to add in all kinds of Ghibli stuff into others' story, and an established screenplay prevents them from doing so.




What about Whisper of the Heart? It was written by Miyazaki, but directed by Y.Kondou.

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However I can see you are really serious with the issue, and I am very interested in your story. It would not hurt to post the story here, would it? And if Suzuki comes across...




Okay, I'll post it soon.

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I think what you can do at the meantime is to ask your relative to have your screenplay translated, then send both the original and translated copy to Studio Ghibli. You should also include a formally written letter in both English and Japanese, explaining what the screenplay is for, why you send it, and all other things you would like to say.

To present your work to Ghibli, I would suggest using snail mail. After all their email box is stuffed with thousands of fan mails everyday and they may not be able to carefully read them all. And snail mail does help to show your seriousness and sincerity.

Wish you all the best!




Thanks.. I appreciate your support.


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That's okay I was just wondering if it is legitimate to release script after it has been somewhat spoiled in forums.
... Okay, I'll post it soon.


Well, it is your own piece of work. You may spoil it to any extent you like, and no one can poke you for that 8]. Anyway I look forward to see your story.

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It is the tradition of Ghibli for the director to do the screenplay himself. Or if he cannot handle it Miyazaki will take up the job. So I am not sure if the studio will be interested in producing a movie by folllowing a finished screenplay. After all it is their habit to add in all kinds of Ghibli stuff into others' story, and an established screenplay prevents them from doing so.



What about Whisper of the Heart? It was written by Miyazaki, but directed by Y.Kondou.


That was why I said if the appointed director cannot handle the work of screenplay (usually together with the storyboards), Miyazaki will do it himself. In any case, the story will still be an 100%, or at least an almost 100% ghibli product. So that is not much chance for them to produce a movie out of a screenplay written by the non-Ghibli people. The best possible case is that they will adopt the main idea of your story and change/ghiblize it radically, just like what they did to Kiki and Howl's. I am not sure of how great that possibility exactly is, though.


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So here's the first part of the story then.. it's incomplete as you can expect, but I will update it regularly.

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Hidden Paradise

Background:

Eishi (12-14?) and Yoko (19-23?) are the main characters of the story. They live in a world that doesn't rotate at all, which makes harsh climates to the opposite sites of the globe (dark side is frozen, while the Sun is burning the other side into a flaming desert). There is no apparent reason for this cause, as if it had always been like this.

To survive in a cruel world like this, there isn't much to choose from; only the rising/setting point of the Sun is habitable for mankind to live. The biggest problem is though, that there is no land on the border of the light and darkness. The solution is, as you could expect, quite unique.

http://www.deviantart.com/view/13629515/
The floating town

In the middle of life and death exists a rotating citadel. Its foundations were built on a rocky island and now only this colossal structure exists on the water level. The people who live there are very independent and require no trade, unless they wish to aid the foreigners. The reason for the rotation isn't selfevident, actually there are multiple motives:

- It works as an enormous Sun watch, although not at the same principles as we know.

- The rotation creates an underwater vortex, which sucks water, minerals and recources trough the inner canal network for sorting. Clean water is available all around the town and after the 'cleansing' opertion, water runs down the walls as varying waterfalls.

- Creates a diurnal rhythm, which helps everyone to stay more energetic and healthy.

Before the rotation was finished, people evolved silver and golden scales onto themselves, because reaching this balanced refugee took some thousand years.

Today Floating town is the calmest place on Earth, and it's also downright a boring place to live in. Children and elderly people are more common there, after all adults are working long and hard, and sometimes even helping the others abroad. Nobody knows about the past, except the divine hiding in the sky. Rarely (every 5-10 years or so) some visitors come visiting there by boat, in hope for blessings. The town is known to bring luck to anyone who passes by.

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Well that's mostly about he background part. Which section shall I analyze next?

- The Characters
- Themes, messages, symbolism and metaphors
- The Plot
- A screenplay sample
- The Landscapes


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I just wonder if the "earth" would be engulfed by the "sun"? As having no rotation the planet can be forced out of its orbit by the centripetal force and crash itself into the sun. Anyway it is a fictitious world I should not take these too serious. So just let your imaginations fly!

In fact your story is quite original and the environment of the world is interesting. And I am impressed with the drawing too. You must have spent a long time in planning the story and developing the plots. I cannot wait to see all the sections . But just take your time, and start with those you are convenient with.

By the way is the "Iris" drawing in your DA gallery also a part of the story?


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