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Originally posted by ^_^PRINCEOFTHEDARKFLAMES^_^ Ok... this brings up a very intersesting point... thank u for reminding me. In the Movie Sophie is young only when see is thinking about Howl. If this were the case then Sophie is having dreams about Howl.
No, the ageing curse doesn't apply when she's asleep. When she's asleep she looks normal - note she has her dark hair back which doesn't happen even when she's awake and besotted in love with Howl and looks young and gorgeous again.
Howl probably looks through the curtain of her bed to check her face since he probably has guessed from her character and behaviour that this old hag is in fact the girl he met (and saved) in the town.
Who said and thanks for ruining the moment!!!
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well what about at the beginning when she first gets into the castle and talks to calsifer about lifting his curse and when she falls asleep then she's an old lady
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In Mononokehime when Ashitaka is in the bog and dips his cup into the water for a drink his arm tingles and he senses a very powerful presence. He strains to see through the trees where at first he sees nothing. With increased effort he looks further to see the god of the forest escorting some fawns through a clearing with an incredible aura of majesty and magic and caution. A connection is made between the characters. A very powerful scene.
Spirited away where Chiro is given some cakes in the garden and bursts into tears. It is the moment it hits her, all that has happened.
The moment when Kiki realizes if she doesn't fly Tombo will fall to his death, she grabs a broom from a street sweeper and puts every ounce of her soul into getting off the ground.
Nasiucca forces down a hovercraft caring a kidnapped Ohmu larva being used to create an Ohmu stampede. Nausicaa is injured in the fall but when she sees the Ohmu trying to enter an acid lake to commit suicide, she gets in the way and pushes back. The Ohmu is stronger and her foot enters the water. She lets out a soul piercing howl of pain that no American voice over actor could ever match and the Ohmu comes back to reality and treats her wounds. The stampede stops and marvels at the selfless and caring actions of one human girl in a brutal and corrupted world.
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Some of the other most moving moments for me:
Whisper of the Heart
The opening with the chorus singing "Country Road," the clock scene, the part where the grandpa dreams of Louise coming for him, the impromptu "Country Road" jam, and the final bike ride.
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Howell seeing Sophie as a young buetifull women instead of an old hag
Nuasicaa taking off her mask in the toxic jungle
The giant exploding all the bugs in nuasicaa
The grave of fireflies, the part where his sister dies. i cried.
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The grave of fireflies, the part where his sister dies. i cried.
Coming from Thug, this really says a lot about that scene.
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I feel awful every time someone mentions that scene, because I didn't cry, and according to everyone that makes me a heartless monster.
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well what about at the beginning when she first gets into the castle and talks to calsifer about lifting his curse and when she falls asleep then she's an old lady
SHe probably would be dreaming about if she can ever go back....
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I feel awful every time someone mentions that scene, because I didn't cry, and according to everyone that makes me a heartless monster.
I didn't exactly cry(serious here) but my eyes watered
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Ya I got "cat returns" and I luv that movie!!! I love the song at the end during the credits
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Strangely enough nothing in GotF made me cry. And coming from me you know that's impossible. I just didn't like that movie, it was too morbid, too - gah, just too much. I didn't know the ending but I could guess it was coming so when it did it wasn't just not a surprise, it wasn't even emotional.
I cry when Sugimura gets turned down, that look on his face, the way he walks away, like his life is over, like we've all done as kids. That was a true emotional moment because it was real, I've been there and I expect most of us have.
A small child dying pointlessly in war is too detached for me, I can't get close to that situation. So it doesn't affect me.
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This scene has already been mentioned but what the hey.
The bit in Howl's Moving Castle where Howl looks through the curtain and sees Sophie asleep and without the curse on her. Possibly my favourite moment in the whole film. In a way, it was very sad too. He'd probably feel really helpless, because he knew that despite all his power, there was little or nothing he could do about the curse.
Also in Mononoke, the whole scene after Ashitaka has rescued San. He's lying on the ground bleeding and she's shouting at him for preventing her from killing Lady Eboshi, and then he just says ... "You're ... beautiful." And then San freaks out. I thought her reaction just showed how alienated she was. A normal girl would just get embarrassed, but she was actually almost frightened.
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Also in Mononoke, the whole scene after Ashitaka has rescued San. He's lying on the ground bleeding and she's shouting at him for preventing her from killing Lady Eboshi, and then he just says ... "You're ... beautiful." And then San freaks out. I thought her reaction just showed how alienated she was. A normal girl would just get embarrassed, but she was actually almost frightened.
why do i always forget about that scene? it goes into the second spot behind the train scene(which is the millionth time ive mentioned it  )
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And now I must do the obligatory thing and mention San feeding Ashitaka by mouth...
It doesn't move me but it does, hm, what's the word? excite me.
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again, another one i missed, for my favourite ghibli of all time, im fairly absent minded, that was the closest we got to a makeout scene.
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I was just thinking, apart from at the end of Howl does anyone else kiss in a Ghibli movie?
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i was thinking the same thing, wasnt there a kiss scene in WOTH somewhere? im not as familiar as you and others are, but maybe not as you would have mentioned it.
i think you might be right as that being the only kiss scene, kinda odd eh? only one out of how many films?
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Strangely enough nothing in GotF made me cry. And coming from me you know that's impossible. I just didn't like that movie, it was too morbid, too - gah, just too much. I didn't know the ending but I could guess it was coming so when it did it wasn't just not a surprise, it wasn't even emotional.
I cry when Sugimura gets turned down, that look on his face, the way he walks away, like his life is over, like we've all done as kids. That was a true emotional moment because it was real, I've been there and I expect most of us have.
[quote]A small child dying pointlessly in war is too detached for me, I can't get close to that situation. So it doesn't affect me.
I really get where you're coming from. A while ago I was reading through plays with a bunch of other people for drama, and everyone loved one play in particular (I can't recall the name) about violence in the Middle East. The climax was a young woman, along with several other people, being pointlessly killed in a suicide bombing. It's a powerful ending in concept, but it didn't really affect me. I didn't feel emotionally connected to the conflict; it just seemed like two sides killing each other for no particular reason, and it ruined the entire play for me.
The play I liked (that no one else did) was about Mary Mallon (commonly referred to as Typhoid Mary), the world's first identified healthy carrier of typhoid fever, who infected 53 people and killed 3 through her job as a cook. The play was about the doctors trying to convince Mary to quit her job and go into quarantine until they could find a cure. I indentified with the tragedy because I could identify with both the doctors and Mary--and I honestly couldn't see a solution that I would make everyone happy. So when Mary decides finally to continue working as a cook--and goes on to kill more people--I genuinely felt sad for everyone. Sad for Mary that she wouldn't learn from her mistakes, sad for the doctors that they weren't able to convince her, and sad for the people who would later become infected.
That said, I still liked Grave of the Fireflies (although perhaps "liked" isn't the right word), but I ultimately felt detached from the tragedy. If I was able to identify more with the people causing their situation, I think I would've appreciated it more. But the other characters were almost entirely despicable, and since I couldn't identify with them, I ultimately was less affected by the film.
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Some interesting posts in this thread so far.
Personally, I find that the pointless deaths are in fact more emotional than the ones which may have some purpose. When I read about soldiers going into battle and being killed, I feel sad, but when I hear about a random, innocent worker being killed because of a bomb, etc, that just leaves me with an empty feeling.
I can't identify with the specific situations in the films, of course. But I can identify with the emotion, with the characters, and the general experience. For what it's worth, after some thought, I could connect with all the characters and even understand some of their actions, including the "evil" aunt in GotF.
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I guess it sort of depends on what kind of person you are. I'm sort of strange in that regard; unless I can identify with a tragedy intellectually, it simply doesn't affect me.
Hurricane Katrina, for example. I can acknowledge that it was horrible, but I simply cannot identify with it. I'm not affected emotionally by a tragedy unless I can enter a person's mindset who has gone through it, and I can't do that for Hurricane Katrina because I have no idea how I would react to such a thing happening to me.
I'm weird that way.
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