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so exactly how more people is going to see it?
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Since the alternatives are a standard kids' CG movie, an animated sequel, and something else (though maybe Ernest & Celestine is very good, but I've just never heard of it), it will surely be either the Disney film or the artistic foreign one. Probably Disney.
Actually, Ernest and Celestine counts as a second "artistic foreign one." I'd never heard of it either, but apparently it's a French production based on a series of classic children's books. Currently has a 100% rating on Rotten Tomatoes.
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I don't think it'll beat Frozen considering all the hype about frozen, but getting a nomination is still very good. I wonder how much studio ghibli/hayao cares about foreign response anyway...
I never knew who was up during SA, beating mulan and lilo and stitch is quite a big deal!
Edit, watched it on youtube. the other nominations were ice age, lilo and stitch, spirit: stalion of the simeron and treasure planet.
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Since the alternatives are a standard kids' CG movie, an animated sequel, and something else (though maybe Ernest & Celestine is very good, but I've just never heard of it), it will surely be either the Disney film or the artistic foreign one. Probably Disney.
Actually, Ernest and Celestine counts as a second "artistic foreign one." I'd never heard of it either, but apparently it's a French production based on a series of classic children's books. Currently has a 100% rating on Rotten Tomatoes.
Ohhh I see. Kaze Tachinu is higher-profile though, as it's from a previous Oscar winner.
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in tomatoes its 13 vs 42 and 4000+ vs 340+ [so 100% does not count, and it actually only means how much new things in the film there is]
larger is wind rises
but the look and feel is almost like takahata's one in earnest and celestine
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a question to the people who saw the wind rises. how enjoyable[nothing else] was the movie? compared with howl and spirited away and also overall
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I liked it. The plot feels like it doesn't have a particular aim - as it goes on, you don't feel like it's heading towards something, and it doesn't have much in the way of a big climax, though the ending is still quite affecting. It feels more like a Takahata film really, as it doesn't have a lot of the things we expect from Miyazaki's works. There are fantasy aspects, but only in dreams, a little like Whisper.
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Well, Arren, it is a biopic after all. I think it would be weird if the plot was heavy on action or moved swiftly toward a clearly defined climax. Because life isn't like that. In that sense the movie is quite different from Miyazaki's other works, but not really different from any other biographical film. It would be really hard to stretch the events of the average person's life to fit a traditional rising-action-falling-action plot diagram.
So the aimlessness Arren talks about didn't really phase me. I wouldn't say the movie is Miyazaki's most sheerly entertaining, as it's pretty slow moving and mellow for most of its run time. But I would say it's easily Miyazaki's best film since Spirited Away.
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Well, I would say Miyazaki does actually stretch and mold Jiro's life and personality a bit in his film. The entire romantic subplot, for example, is fictionalized, and Jiro's ideals and morals feel like a mixture of Jiro and Miyazaki himself. But it's definitely true that the approach to the film - chronicling a person's life work - gives it a different feel in storytelling to a contained adventure like, say, Laputa or Mononoke.
And I definitely agree it is Miyazaki's best film since Spirited Away.
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By the way, I just noticed Ernest et Celestine mentioned a few posts ago.
It's a gentle and charming French-Belgian film that has been made with a lot of heart, and certainly the underdog in the category. It's up there with Wind Rises in terms of deserving the award.
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since spirited away 
its not better than laputa or kiki
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its a uniquely Miyazaki film, one only he could make and its uniqueness places it beyond being easily critiqued.[About Porco Rosso]
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I didn't really mean that as a criticism, more as a warning that one shouldn't expect the kind of storytelling that we usually see from Miyazaki. I did find it a little slow and meandering at times, but for the most part I appreciated the different pace.
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feb 21 husky
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its a uniquely Miyazaki film, one only he could make and its uniqueness places it beyond being easily critiqued.[About Porco Rosso]
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Yeah, it won't be so long! It might be tricky to find it with subtitles though... Of course, that might not be a problem for you. I just prefer to have the original audio.  The dub cast actually sounds pretty decent.
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So The Wind Rises did not get the Oscar as we suspected.
booooooooo oscar committee boooooooooooo
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its a uniquely Miyazaki film, one only he could make and its uniqueness places it beyond being easily critiqued.[About Porco Rosso]
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Yeah, it's a shame but unsurprising. Never mind. There are other awards to be won.
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Who did win it instead of Wind Rises... 
FROZEN
ofcourse
As people started to compare it with The Lion King.
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